Episodes

  • E044 – Peter Koppes (The Church) interview: Guitars, Chemistry, and Syncretism
    Aug 16 2025

    In this episode, we sit down with Peter Koppes, founding guitarist of The Church, to explore the deep currents of his musical life—from early influences to legendary albums, solo works, and new collaborations.

    What we cover in this conversation:
    • 🎹 Early beginnings: Why Peter’s first love was the Hammond Organ, how he wound up on drums, and the Beatles’ surprising link to bossa nova.
    • 🎸 Forming The Church: The transition from Precious Little → Baby Grande → The Church, and setting the record straight on Steve Kilbey’s “firing” from Baby Grande.
    • 🌌 The Church’s legacy: Recording Starfish, the happy accidents behind “Under the Milky Way,” and Peter’s reflections on key tracks like Almost With You, Reptile, and A New Season.
    • 🥁 Behind the music: Richard Ploog’s contributions, producers pushing drummers to click tracks, and what changed between Starfish and Gold Afternoon Fix.
    • 🎼 Solo artistry: Manchild & Myth and From the Well—his painterly approach to songwriting and the role of collaborators.
    • 🌀 Syncretism project: A creative partnership with Dave Scotland, the track “I Live,” and weaving cultural/ambient elements into new soundscapes.
    • 🌱 Family & future: Reflections on boxing lessons as a child, the spirit in music, and his daughters’ project Rain Party.

    A candid, wide-ranging conversation with one of alternative rock’s great sonic architects.

    👉 Follow Peter’s music:
    Website: https://peterkoppes.com/
    YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCdn2kYdQR2yQJ6YcU0QluJQ/featured
    X: https://x.com/peterkoppes
    Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/peter.koppes.3
    Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/5ENOFSRHD8RnVWRp4gQJha?si=pU-8kinsTBiteH-ciPTG8g

    👉 The Church:
    Shadow Cabinet: https://shadowcabi.net/

    👉 Snow Koppes:
    Bandcamp: https://snowkoppes.bandcamp.com/album/supastar

    👉 O and Shea:
    Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/2vw6GFtH8CBLQmXATwArqW?si=rny5tquYQ2qkmlBzFGQMkg
    Bandcamp: https://oandshea.bandcamp.com/

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    1 hr and 47 mins
  • E043 - Floodland by The Sisters of Mercy: Choral Doom and Drum Machines in the Twilight
    Jul 25 2025

    Floodland by The Sisters of Mercy: Choral Doom and Drum Machines in the Twilight

    Spotify for Creators – Podcast Episode Guide

    In this episode, we wade through the sonic fog of Floodland, the 1987 landmark from The Sisters of Mercy. With personal stories, deep dives, and a few laughs, we unravel the gothic myths, machines, and melodrama behind one of the most iconic albums of the era.

    We open by sharing our first brushes with The Sisters of Mercy:

    • Jimmy first heard “This Corrosion” but didn’t love it—so he never explored the rest of the album

    • Jim recounts his own discovery story and first impressions

    • Jerry came to SOM from a very different starting point: 1950s music

    • Airdale’s track “Space Is Falling” comes up, with a reference to SOM that caught our attention

    📌 And yes, the band’s name comes from a Leonard Cohen song featured in the 1980 film The Gun Runner—a literary touchstone that fits Eldritch’s brooding, poetic aesthetic.

    We revisit the band’s early days and explore the Floodland era mythos:

    • The Sisters formed in 1980 in Leeds, England

    • Patricia Morrison’s role in the Floodland sessions remains one of rock’s more elegant mysteries

    • SOM trading cards and other cult fan artifacts spark memories and conversation

    • Jerry shares a concert story involving a flying cigarette from Andrew himself

    • The “Dominion” video was filmed in Jordan and gives off major Hellraiser or Indiana Jones vibes

    • And yes, they once toured with Public Enemy

    We also talk about the striking contrast between Andrew Eldritch’s singing voice and his regular speaking voice—both equally iconic, in very different ways.

    Dr. Avalanche isn’t just a drum machine—it’s a character in the band’s lore.

    • From early hardware to upgraded samplers, this unblinking rhythm section keeps time with eerie consistency

    • Brendan (of The Mourning) even has a tattoo of the band’s Merciful Release label logo, joining Chris from JC&tSK in paying tribute

    • We share our own experiences using drum machines and discuss whether Avalanche feels cold and mechanical—or oddly emotional and essential

    We discuss how Andrew Eldritch brought in producer Jim Steinman to co-write and co-produce “This Corrosion.” That move helped secure a £50,000 advance, and the result was one of the most over-the-top, anthemic tracks in goth history.

    Jimmy admits that “This Corrosion” didn’t click with him at all when he first heard it—and that kept him from giving the rest of the album a fair shot for years.

    We also explore the possible meaning behind “Lucretia My Reflection,” often read as a tribute—or critique—of Patricia Morrison.

    Here comes the eternal question: Is Floodland a goth album?

    • Eldritch has famously rejected the goth label for decades

    • Yet between the cover art, the tone, the themes, and the fanbase… the case for “yes” is hard to ignore

    • We explore how Floodland compares to work by Bauhaus, Siouxsie, or The Cure

    • Does the album define goth, transcend it, or parody it?

    We break down the songs that make Floodland such an enduring and unusual experience:

    • “Dominion/Mother Russia” opens with a Cold War flourish

    • “Flood I” introduces the spiritual, apocalyptic tones that echo throughout

    • “Lucretia My Reflection” is taut, cryptic, and endlessly cool

    • “1959” closes the core album with stark minimalism

    • “This Corrosion” is either high drama or pure camp—or both

    • “Flood II,” “Driven Like the Snow,” and “Neverland” deepen the mood further

    We also touch on bonus tracks “Torch” and “Colours,” added on the remastered version of Floodland, and give a nod to follow-up album Vision Thing. Despite the acclaim, Floodland marked the beginning of the end for SOM's studio albums.

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    2 hrs and 25 mins
  • E042 – Kevin Bianchi of Vanishing Shores: Ghosts, Maps, and Enduring Hope
    Jul 3 2025

    🎙 Post-punk Heartstrings – Episode 042
    Guest: Kevin Bianchi of Vanishing Shores
    Special Guest: Mark Feldbush
    Title: Ghosts, Maps, and Enduring Hope

    In this intimate and far-reaching conversation, Kevin Bianchi—frontman of Cleveland-based indie rock/Brit-pop outfit Vanishing Shores—shares the story behind the band's formation, his personal musical journey, and the emotional and lyrical depth that defines their sound.

    Kevin reflects on:
    • 🎸 The spark that led to forming Vanishing Shores and his path into music
    • 🧭 Early projects that helped shape his current sound
    • 🎧 Influences from Paul McCartney, Neil Finn, Elvis Costello, Bruce Cockburn, and Mark Heard

    We dive deep into Kevin’s lyrical world:
    • 👻 The recurring presence of ghosts in songs like “In Between” and “Monologue + Transcript” as metaphors for memory, loss, truth, and the Holy Spirit
    • 📝 The personal significance of lines like “We want the truth like ghosts” and “Hope is a dark train”
    • 🌊 Reflections on Bande-son pour la survie and Maps, and how isolation and introspection informed their creation
    • ⭐ Favorite lyrical lines from “Long Gone” and “First Light”, and the stories behind them

    Kevin also pulls back the curtain on the Vanishing Shores sound:
    • 🎙 The role of collaborators and layered vocal harmonies in crafting emotional impact
    • 🥁 The intensity and energy brought by the rhythm section, both in studio and live
    • 🎹 The atmospheric use of synthesizers to shape mood and texture
    • 🌅 The meaning behind the band name Vanishing Shores and its thematic resonance

    💿 Later in the episode:
    We’re joined by Mark Feldbush to discuss the upcoming benefit compilation album No Distance Between Us: A Benefit for Ukrainian Refugees, supporting the humanitarian work of the International Rescue Committee. Kevin shares his motivation for contributing to socially conscious projects and how music can be a vehicle for empathy and action.

    This conversation is a journey through the poetic and sonic world of Vanishing Shores—a band rooted in introspection, spiritual yearning, and emotional honesty. Whether you're a longtime fan or discovering their music for the first time, Kevin Bianchi’s insight offers a rich and rewarding listen.

    You can find the music of Vanishing Shores at the following links:

    Vanishing Shores website: https://vanishingshores.com/

    Bandcamp: https://vanishingshores.bandcamp.com/

    Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/vanishingshores

    YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@vanishingshores5514

    Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4o1hUb6mX2C3QpeF8r8lzX?si=l1x02d9YSdSOGOo2lv3HHw

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    2 hrs and 5 mins
  • E041 – Dover Lights: Inside the Soundscape - Collaboration, Influence, and the Stories Behind the Songs
    Jun 8 2025

    🎙️ E041 – Dover Lights: Inside the Soundscape
    Guests: Daniel Brinker & Andy Moore of Dover Lights

    In this intimate and wide-ranging conversation, we sit down with Daniel Brinker and Andy Moore of Dover Lights to explore the origins of their creative partnership, the stories behind their latest album, and the eclectic mix of influences that shape their distinctive sound.

    From This Mortal Coil, Talk Talk, and The Blue Nile to Peter Murphy and Sigur Rós, the duo pulls from a broad sonic palette to create something uniquely their own.

    🎧 Highlights:
    • How Daniel and Andy met and began collaborating
    • Deep dive into the track “Prisoners” – bass vs synth dynamics
    • Why “Stone” ends so abruptly
    • Andy’s upcoming solo record (Blue Nile, Mogwai, Paul Simon vibes)
    • Their earliest musical influences and first albums
    • Behind the songwriting process – who writes what
    • Exploring standout tracks: “Terrors of the Night,” “Memory Dissolves,” “Blue Fox,” “Carrauntoohil I & II,” and more
    • Honoring a friend’s memory in “Carrauntoohil II”
    • What’s next for Dover Lights, including collaborations with members of The The and The Church

    🔗 Connect with Dover Lights:
    Website: doverlights.com
    Bandcamp: doverlights.bandcamp.com
    Spotify: Listen on Spotify
    Apple Music: Listen on Apple Music
    Instagram: @doverlights_official
    Facebook: Dover Lights on Facebook

    🎧 Listen now on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and all major podcast platforms.
    If you enjoy the episode, please rate, follow, and leave a review—it really helps support the show!


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    1 hr and 51 mins
  • E040 – Transmissions from The Church: Steve Kilbey on Obsession, Myth, and Channeling the Music
    May 17 2025
    🎙️ Post-punk Heartstrings Episode 040Transmissions from The Church: Steve Kilbey on Obsession, Myth, and Channeling the MusicIn this landmark 40th episode, we sit down with Steve Kilbey — bassist, lyricist, and founder of the iconic Australian band The Church. From early musical beginnings to post-punk stardom, Kilbey walks us through the obsessions, mysticism, and myth-making that fuel his prolific output. We talk about Bowie, ambient textures, concept albums, and how songs like Under the Milky Way come to him like transmissions from another place.🎸 Steve’s start in music, early band Baby Grande, and the urge to write more than play🌀 The origin of The Church name — a nod to Bowie’s “Moonage Daydream”🤝 Meeting the original lineup: Peter Koppes, Marty Willson-Piper, Nick Ward⛪ The use of religious and mythological themes in his lyrics (Priest = Aura, “Kings”)🌫️ The evolution of ambient textures in The Church’s music (“Summer,” Forget Yourself)🥁 Drum loops, Richard Ploog’s final recordings (Gold Afternoon Fix)🎧 Collaborations: Isidore with Jeffrey Cain and No Agenda with Hammock📼 Outtakes & B-sides: Beside Yourself, Back With Two Beasts, So Love May Find Us📖 The Hypnogogue saga: Eros Zeta, futuristic concept albums, and the companion novella🛸 New album Lacuna coming late 2025🛤️ The Road to Tibooburra - Steve Kilbey and band The Winged Heels and the theatrical story of Lord Jim.💡 On AI, technology, and disillusionment in lyrics like in the song “Amanita”🗣️ Reflections on legacy, autonomy, and what makes a “Church” recordTracks included for critique purposes:“Anchorage” – The Church“Swan Lake” – The Church“There and Back” – Baby Grande“Moonage Daydream” – David Bowie“Fly” – The Church“Field of Mars” – The Church“Metropolis” – The Church“Kings” – The Church“Summer” – The Church“No Agenda” – Hammock ft. Steve Kilbey“So Love May Find Us” – The Church“Musidora” – Isidore“Amanita” – The Church“The Hypnogogue” – The Church“Last Drinks” – Steve Kilbey & The Winged HeelsYou can find Post-Punk Heartstrings on Facebook: ⁠https://www.facebook.com/PostpunkHeartstrings⁠ Post-punkHeartstrings can now be found on YouTube at https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCjKWsuzqWiSY0vln1Py5ahg👉 Drop us a message, follow the show, and say hello!
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    1 hr and 51 mins
  • E039 – Steve Taylor – Part 2: From Squint to the Screen and Beyond
    Mar 15 2025

    In this episode, we dive deep into the career and creative journey of our guest, Steve Taylor, exploring his influence in the music industry, film, and beyond.

    We start by reflecting on Steve's time at Squint Entertainment, a pivotal era that gave rise to major artists like Chevelle and Sixpence None the Richer.

    Next, we discuss the 2012 film Blue Like Jazz and explore the process of curating a compelling soundtrack, featuring artists like Menomena, Katie Herzig, and Danny Seim.

    We discuss how Steve Taylor and The Perfect Foil’s track "A Life Preserved" contributed to pushing the film past the finish line.

    Speaking of Steve Taylor and The Perfect Foil, we delve into their 2014 album Goliath and the creative synergy between Peter Furler, Jimmy Abegg, John Mark Painter, and Daniel Smith. We break down key tracks like The Sympathy Vote, Rubberneck, and In Layers, analyzing lyrical themes and potential influences—There really was a Pixies reference in The Sympathy Vote!!

    Our conversation continues with Danielson - How the partnership came about and how the recording experience was.

    Shifting gears, we talk about Steve's experience teaching film at Lipscomb University.

    The film Sketch also makes its way into our discussion. What it was like working on this project, which features Tony Hale (Arrested Development) and D’arcy Carden (The Good Place, Barry)? After seven years, will audiences finally be able to stream this film?

    Then, we explore The Dead Sea Squirrels, an animated series collaboration with Mike Nawrocki and Disney animator Tom Bancroft.

    We also talk about Russ Taff – Cover Story and Steve's involvement in the project alongside producer Matt Wallace.

    Finally, we wrap things up with a look at what’s next. Are there plans for new music? Any upcoming projects we should keep an eye out for? Tune in to get all the details in this fascinating episode!

    Sketch Movie Interview with Seth Worley and Tony Hale

    Steve Taylor License to Rock video


    Episode contains the follow clips for critique purposes:

    Sixpence None The Richer - Track: Kiss Me

    Menomena Track: Taos




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    1 hr and 10 mins
  • E038 – Steve Taylor - Part 1 – Satirical Post-punk Madman!
    Feb 16 2025

    In this episode, JimOA and I got an opportunity to chat with legendary musician and film director, Steve Taylor. He is a pioneer of Christian new wave/post-punk music and has had a major influence on me and so many others throughout his career over the past 45 years. He is known for his satirical social commentary, clever lyrics and rapid-fire vocal delivery. This is part one of our conversation so please join us and listen as we talk about his music career from the post-punk perspective. Thanks for joining us!


    PLEASE check out the music of Steve Taylor at the below links:

    Spotify: Steve Taylor on Spotify

    Facebook: Steve Taylor on Facebook

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    1 hr and 23 mins
  • E037 – Citizens of YEAH! – Moody Indie rock “Recorded in a bedroom, for listening in stadiums”
    Jan 18 2025

    In this episode, JimOA and I sat down for an enchanting chat with Jonathan “Jono” Womack of the Newcastle Upon Tyne, one-man project Citizens of YEAH! I was immediately pulled in by the warm, intimate vocals and indie post-punk ambiance. The production is rich with an edge of experimentalism and lives up to the self-described, “Recorded in a bedroom, for listening in stadiums.” Don’t forget to support this project and follow Citizen of YEAH! on Instagram, Facebook, Apple Music, YouTube and Spotify. If you enjoy the music, PLEASE consider becoming a supporter on Bandcamp. If you like Radiohead, The Smiths. Pavement, Blur, Pixies, And You Will Know Us By the Trail of Dead, and The Go-Betweens, you will enjoy the music of Citizens of YEAH! Thanks for joining us!

    Jono’s previous band was Beever. Beever morphed into guvdaan and then finally into Youth of America. Here is a link to the “internet vintage” guvdaan website


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    2 hrs and 1 min