In this conversation, Jarrod Thomas and Senator Mark Johnson discuss the current political climate in Minnesota, focusing on the complexities of leadership, the role of federal agencies like ICE, and the impact of political rhetoric on public safety. They explore the consequences of fraud and mismanagement in state programs, particularly in relation to universal school lunches, and emphasize the need for collaboration and healing in politics to address the challenges facing the state. https://www.mnsenaterepublicans.com/johnson-statement-on-ice-use-of-force/ https://www.grandforksherald.com/news/minnesota/sen-mark-johnson-blasts-minnesota-department-of-education-gov-walz-in-wake-of-feeding-our-children-report https://www.grandforksherald.com/news/minnesota/minnesota-lawmakers-react-to-fatal-shooting-by-federal-agents https://www.grandforksherald.com/opinion/columns/port-ignoring-the-clear-will-of-the-people-the-senate-kills-school-meals-bill https://mndaily.com/city/local-minnesota-leaders-sue-department-of-homeland-security-over-ice-activity-alleging-excessive-deployment/01/24/2026/ https://www.twincities.com/2026/01/24/videos-of-deadly-minneapolis-shooting-contradict-government-statements/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZHtDxRzMlE