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Physician Cents

Physician Cents

By: Chad Chubb & Tyler Olson
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Welcome to the Physician Cents Podcast! A podcast designed specifically for physicians, offering a breakdown of complex financial topics to help you develop your financial IQ, further your financial journey, and improve your well-being. Whether you're a medical student, resident, fellow, or attending physician, you're sure to learn something new that will benefit your journey.2024 Economics Hygiene & Healthy Living Personal Finance Physical Illness & Disease
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  • Estate Planning & Asset Protection with Kyle Claussen, Ep #041
    Nov 15 2025
    Estate planning is often one of those "I know I should, but…" tasks that lingers on the to-do list, especially for busy professionals like physicians. So this week we're joined by Kyle Claussen, founder and owner of Resolve, for an in-depth conversation focused on estate planning for physicians. Kyle brings a wealth of expertise, tackling the complexities of estate planning, including guardianship, asset protection, and the all-important topic of ensuring your wishes are followed should the unexpected happen. From explaining when physicians should start thinking about estate planning (hint: don't wait until it's too late!) to breaking down the difference between wills and trusts, this episode is packed with practical advice tailored to doctors at every stage, whether you're a med student, resident, or practicing physician. The discussion goes beyond the basics, exploring how estate planning intersects with asset protection, and why proactive rather than reactive planning is so critical. Expect actionable tips on structuring beneficiaries, avoiding costly mistakes with property ownership across multiple states, and even some myth-busting around legal costs and DIY online tools. If you've ever put off estate planning or found the process intimidating, this episode will give you the clarity, and nudge, you need to get started. Looking for help with Disability Insurance, Physician Banking, Student Loan Refinancing, Physician Mortgages, Contract Reviews, and more? Check out our "Best of the Best" sponsors page to find a list of the professionals Chad & Tyler team up with for their clients. You will want to hear this episode if you are interested in... [06:21] Estate and trust distribution insights.[09:14] Life insurance beneficiary risks.[12:16 Trusts for asset protection.[15:29 Managing multi-state property probates.[16:34 Estate planning essentials.[21:17 Top physician asset protection tips.[22:43 Risk management tips for rentals.[29:16 Why estate planning matters. When Should Physicians Start Estate Planning? When's the right time to get your estate plan in order? The answer is surprisingly straightforward, if you have kids, now is the time. Even if you're single or married without kids, the default "intestate" rules determined by your state may not align with your preferences, potentially leading to lengthy probate processes and undesirable outcomes. Many physicians delay estate planning, thinking it only becomes necessary when they're older or have amassed significant assets. But the reality is that life insurance proceeds, custody of children, and guardianship arrangements in the event of untimely death all hinge on these critical documents, regardless of your age or net worth. Wills, Trusts, and Beneficiaries: Avoiding Common Pitfalls A major focus of the discussion was the mechanics of passing on assets, particularly for families with young children. Too often, physicians mistakenly list minor children as direct beneficiaries of life insurance policies or retirement accounts. This can create legal headaches, since minors cannot legally inherit large sums outright or manage those funds. Kyle emphasized the importance of designating a trust, either by establishing a revocable living trust or including a contingent trust in your will, as the beneficiary for minor children. Doing so not only streamlines the process and potentially avoids multiple probate cases (especially important if you own property in multiple states), but it also allows you to set parameters around when and how young beneficiaries receive assets. You can't change the rules after the fact. That's why proactive planning, rather than reactive scrambling after a crisis, is essential. Estate Planning Costs and What to Expect One common myth is that estate planning is prohibitively expensive. According to Kyle, basic estate plans, which include powers of attorney, a will, and potentially a revocable trust, typically range from $500 to $2,500. While more advanced plans for those with multi-million dollar estates may cost more, most early- and mid-career physicians can secure peace of mind with a modest investment. He advises reviewing estate documents every five years or after major life changes to ensure guardians, beneficiaries, and special instructions are up to date. Key Tools Every Physician Should Consider for Asset Protection While estate planning determines what happens after you're gone, asset protection is about proactively safeguarding your wealth during your lifetime. The two are often linked, but not all estate planning tools (such as revocable living trusts) provide creditor protection. Kyle outlined several primary strategies: Malpractice Insurance: Ensure you're adequately covered at or above your state minimums.Tenancy by the Entirety: If available in your state, this joint ownership option for married couples provides powerful protection of your primary residence against individual creditors.Umbrella Insurance: An...
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  • The Value of Life Outweighs Money, Ep #040
    Nov 1 2025
    This week, we're exploring how moments of uncertainty and adversity can shake our priorities and remind us not to let financial goals overshadow our relationships and overall well-being. Whether you're a medical student, resident, or practicing physician, this episode encourages you to regularly reassess your work-life balance and ensure your financial decisions support, not compete with, the life you truly want to lead. Be proactive, not reactive, in aligning financial strategies with what matters most. So settle in and get ready for honest insights, personal stories, and actionable advice on blending smart financial planning with a fulfilling and authentic life. Looking for help with Disability Insurance, Physician Banking, Student Loan Refinancing, Physician Mortgages, Contract Reviews, and more? Check out our "Best of the Best" sponsors page to find a list of the professionals Chad & Tyler team up with for their clients. You will want to hear this episode if you are interested in... [00:00] Balance financial independence and meaningful living.[03:07] Value of life versus the value of financial planning and wealth creation.[06:30] Unique pressures and time demands of the medical profession.[07:47] The emotional, relational, and personal dimensions of financial planning.[08:52] Reevaluate your priorities to optimize life.[09:58] Financial planning as a tool for life optimization. When Life Overshadows Money We open the episode sharing a personal experience: a scary moment when Tyler's son fell and suffered a head injury during a family trip. Although the outcome was ultimately okay, it was a stark reminder that, in moments when our loved ones are in danger, money suddenly feels meaningless. After all, no matter how much money we've accumulated, none of it matters when someone we love isn't ok. These experiences, whether direct or vicarious, force us to reevaluate priorities. Physicians often feel a tension: striving for financial independence or early retirement, versus the die with zero philosophy that advocates for using resources to enrich life today. Setting the right priorities is not always easy, which is why reflective conversations like these are valuable. Work-Life Balance: More Than a Buzzword Work-life balance is especially elusive for many physicians; the grind can easily take over, often leading to missed family moments and a skewed sense of what truly matters. Life moves quickly, and loved ones won't always be around. The true value in life isn't found in dollar signs, but in the relationships and memories we create. While financial security is vital, letting it dominate our decisions can leave us out of balance, personally and professionally. Be Honest About What You Want Effective financial planning does require introspection and honest conversations. Good financial planners will routinely ask clients about their time commitments and priorities, not just their investment strategies. Physicians (and anyone) should establish a "supporting cast," whether it's a spouse, friends, or a planner, to keep themselves accountable for how they spend their time, not just their money. These conversations help prevent years from slipping by without regular reassessment of what truly matters. Making Intentional Choices Periodically consider questions like, "If I could go down to 0.9 or 0.8 FTE and still reasonably reach my goals, would you do it?" For those with steady savings and clear financial plans, there's often hidden flexibility to adjust work commitments and make space for life's priorities. We also share stories of clients who took pay cuts or changed careers to reclaim quality time with their families, and how these moves were celebrated not just financially, but also personally. Financial planning principles are crucial, but only insofar as they enable a life well-lived. Money is the tool, not the destination. Tyler sums it up: "Value financial planning principles, but value them in the context of the value of life and making the most of it for yourself." In medicine and beyond, it pays to be intentional about how we invest our resources, especially the ones we cannot earn back. Are you assessing your priorities regularly? What changes could you make today to give first place to what matters most in your life? The best of the best list is a paid sponsorship, but these are professionals/companies that Tyler and Chad collaborate with within their own practices or have been vetted to earn a spot on this list. By supporting our sponsors it allows Chad & Tyler to dedicate more time to you and the Physician Cents community. If you ever have a question (or not a great experience, which we don't expect!) about a sponsor, please let us know. We call it the "best of the best" for a reason, and we will maintain that standard for our listeners & viewers. Connect With Physician Cents WealthKeel LLCOlson Consulting LLCTyler Olson on TwitterChad Chubb, CFP®, CSLP® on Twitter Subscribe to Physician ...
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  • Unlocking the Power of Mega Backdoor Roth IRAs, Ep #039
    Oct 15 2025
    The Mega Backdoor Roth isn't for everyone, but when available, it's a physician's superpower. Whether you're a W2 employee, an independent contractor, or running your own solo 401k, we discuss how to add it to your financial strategy and explain the potential pitfalls. In this episode, we talk through how to check your plan details and crunch the numbers to see whether it's right for you. After all, balance is key to financial wellness. If you've ever wondered how to get more into your Roth bucket or whether after-tax 401(k) contributions could benefit your long-term plan, this episode is for you. Looking for help with Disability Insurance, Physician Banking, Student Loan Refinancing, Physician Mortgages, Contract Reviews, and more? Check out our "Best of the Best" sponsors page to find a list of the professionals Chad & Tyler team up with for their clients. You will want to hear this episode if you are interested in... [04:37] Mega Backdoor Roth limit constraints.[09:04] The tax efficiency debate: after-tax vs. brokerage.[13:03] Mega Backdoor Roth strategies.[14:07] Qualifying for a Mega Backdoor Roth.[17:28] Maximizing income for retirement planning. What is the Mega Backdoor Roth? The Mega Backdoor Roth is an advanced retirement savings tactic that enables high-income earners to invest much more into Roth accounts than what standard Roth IRA or Roth 401(k) contribution limits allow. For 2025, the total 401(k) contribution cap is $70,000, which includes your $23,500 employee contribution, employer match, profit-sharing, and, where available, the after-tax contributions that make the Mega Backdoor Roth possible. In practical terms, if your employer plan allows both after-tax contributions and in-service rollovers or conversions to a Roth, you could move up to $70,000 into your Roth 401(k) or IRA annually, subject to subtracting your standard contributions and employer match. This "mega" savings opportunity can significantly boost your tax-free retirement nest egg, if you're eligible. Why Isn't Everyone Doing This? The excitement about the Mega Backdoor Roth on online finance forums makes sense, but not everyone can access this perk. Most 401(k) plans (especially in private practice or academic settings) do not offer the required plan features. Out of every ten clients, maybe only two or three have plans that permit Mega Backdoor Roth contributions. What's more, high employer contributions can limit your after-tax space. If your employer already maxes out your account with generous matching or profit-sharing, there may be little to no room left for after-tax contributions. How Does It Work? Here's the basic playbook: Check Your Plan Rules: Ask HR if your 401(k) permits after-tax contributions and if it allows in-service rollovers or conversions to a Roth. Calculate Your Limit: Subtract your employee plus employer contributions from the $70,000 limit. The difference can be contributed after-tax. Act Quickly on Conversions: Ideally, you want to roll over your after-tax contributions to a Roth as soon as possible. This ensures all growth also becomes tax-free, not just the original contributions. Watch Out for Pitfalls: If you overcontribute before employer matching goes in, you risk missing out on those contributions or breaching the annual cap, which can trigger headaches and require corrective distributions. Solo 401(k)s and Mega Backdoor Roth For independent physicians or those with significant 1099 income, a Solo 401(k) may create even more flexibility. Some people can combine cash-balance pension plans with Solo 401(k)s for both pre-tax and Mega Backdoor Roth contributions. However, not all off-the-shelf plans allow these advanced moves; customized plan setup may be required, and using the right provider can make a big difference. Spouses who work in the practice might also be eligible, potentially doubling the family's Mega Backdoor Roth opportunity, a major win for highly compensated couples. Is It Always the Right Move? More Roth savings sounds great, but don't prioritize future tax-favored accounts over your present cash flow or liquid needs. If contributing the maximum would squeeze your lifestyle or short-term goals, scaling back is wise. Plus, for some, a taxable brokerage account, especially for low-dividend investments, might be more tax-efficient if after-tax-only options are the alternative. Remember, you don't have to max out your after-tax contributions for the strategy to be worthwhile. Even smaller amounts add up and diversify your retirement tax picture. The best of the best list is a paid sponsorship, but these are professionals/companies that Tyler and Chad collaborate with within their own practices or have been vetted to earn a spot on this list. By supporting our sponsors, it allows Chad & Tyler to dedicate more time to you and the Physician Cents community. If you ever have a question (or not a great experience, which we don't expect!) about a sponsor, please let us know...
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