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Ever wondered if chasing "shiny objects" in business could actually build real freedom, or if it's just a trap for the restless?

We sit down with a Louisiana pharmacist who's turned his stable career into a launchpad for real estate flips, Airbnb hustles, and now a laundromat empire—complete with wash-and-fold deliveries and vending side gigs. It's not the glamorous path, but it's raw, hands-on, and full of hard-won lessons from someone who's sweated through renovations, scrubbed football jerseys on weekends, and pivoted when the numbers stopped adding up. We're sharing this because we've all felt that pull to branch out, but what if the key isn't scaling fast—it's learning slow, staying grounded, and prioritizing time with family over endless growth?

This guy's story hits home: He built financial security first with a doctorate that lets him work just three 12-hour shifts a week, freeing up four days to experiment without catastrophe. No gurus here—just real talk on why real estate margins tanked post-hurricanes (hello, skyrocketing insurance), how laundromats beat rentals for long-term cash flow (one spot could net what 10 houses do once paid off), and the myth of "passive" income. Nothing's truly hands-off, but outsourcing what you hate? That's where freedom lives. We get into the grit: dumping coins for that satisfying clink, testing stain removers on comforters people forget to wash, and using DoorDash for pickups until you scale to your own driver. It's about maximizing earning power now, so you can make memories in your 40s—not wait for some distant retirement.

And yeah, we're calling out the education trap: Skip the fluffy college degrees unless it's specialized like pharmacy. Podcasts, audiobooks, and cheap books got him farther than six figures in tuition. But when stakes rise, invest in mentors who scale without losing your soul. His take on "Die with Zero"? Freedom isn't escaping work—it's ditching the W-2 grind to hike with your kid or book that spontaneous Airbnb, because life's too short for two weeks of vacation a year.

📌 Key Topics:

✅ From pharmacy stability to real estate risks: Using the BRRRR method and 70% rule to flip without going broke.

✅ Why laundromats crush rentals: Higher margins, fewer headaches, and add-ons like wash-fold that turn service into revenue.

✅ Busting passive income myths: Everything takes work—hiring attendants, battling "shiny object syndrome," and pivoting when fun fades.

✅ Education that pays: Free podcasts over pricey college, plus when to splurge on courses for real scaling.

✅ True freedom redefined: Build businesses for time with family, tax perks, and memories now—not just a fat nest egg later.

What if your next pivot isn't about more money, but reclaiming the hours you actually want to live? Tune in and rethink your own path.

Chapters:

00:00 From Pharmacy to Real Estate: A Unique Journey

07:04 The Importance of Education in Real Estate Investing

13:51 Exploring the Laundromat Business Model

21:11 Innovative Marketing Strategies for a New Business

30:05 The Value of Entrepreneurship and Education

33:44 Scaling the Business: A Personal Journey

36:01 Education vs. Experience: The Value of Learning

39:41 Real Estate vs. Laundromats: A Shift in Focus

43:49 Understanding Returns: The Numbers Behind Laundromats

48:16 Navigating Debt: Good vs. Bad Debt

52:11 Marketing Strategies: Building a Brand in Small Towns

56:49 Family Legacy: Involving the Next Generation

01:00:41 Defining Freedom: Balancing Work and Life