• PALM COURT POD SEASON 2 WRAPUP with Hosts Megan Cytron, Grant Balfour, and Mike Palmer
    Aug 29 2025
    It's a wrap on season two of the Palm Court Pod. Hosts Mike Palmer, Megan Cytron, and Grant Balfour reflect on the past year and discuss what's to come for New College and the podcast itself. We reflect on a year of change, both geopolitically and personally. We started the pod with the idea that New College was the "canary in the swamp," and as New College went, so might higher education in the U.S. As it turns out, we were right, and now what's happening at New College is being seen all over the country. We focus on celebrating the parts of New College's culture that we love while keeping track of the challenges. We talked to a lot of interesting people this season, including Libby Harrity, Mike Campbell, and Eric Schickler. We also interviewed journalists who have been covering New College, such as Katherine Joyce, who wrote the article "The New College Gambit." We note the recent attempt by the governor to place Ringling Museum under New College's control and the new admin's strange hires, weird expenses, and changes to the grading system. This new "grade equivalents" system defeats the whole philosophy of New College, which was to reward intellectual curiosity and allow students to measure themselves against standards established in a relationship with a professor, not a traditional grading scale. As we look toward season three, we have a number of ideas for future episodes. We've heard stories of new students, including athletes, who came to the school not knowing anything about the New College system and are still sticking with it and thriving. There are also stories of people who came as "culture warriors" but were converted by their experiences at the school. We plan to continue our conversations with alums, academics, and journalists to understand the shifting landscape of higher education, particularly in Florida. With Governor DeSantis term-limited, we speculate on what the next election might mean for New College. Finally, we want to hear from you, our listeners. Subscribe wherever you listen to pods. Video versions are on Youtube and Spotify. We'll be back in the fall with Season 3. 00:00 Introduction and Season Recap 01:05 Reflecting on Season Two 01:25 New College and Higher Ed Trends 02:20 Memorable Guests and Episodes 04:09 Historical Events and Listener Requests 06:03 Challenges and Changes in Higher Education 12:31 Faculty and Institutional Changes 16:32 Student Experiences and Future Outlook 19:17 Culture Warriors and Campus Politics 20:57 Florida's Political Landscape and New College 21:44 Gubernatorial Election and Future Prospects 23:15 Third Party Activity and National Politics 24:37 Podcast Reflections and Future Guests 26:55 Listener Engagement and Community Interaction 27:45 Season Two Evaluation and Future Plans 31:27 Final Thoughts and Hot Takes Shownotes: This season started with Libby Harrity and Mike Campbell The 80s saw a rise in quantitative psychology and sociology. Zorn’s Lemma has some relics of the Kingsley Hall experiment (see Ep. 20) The “silent protest” involved noise complaints over “walls” - a perennial problem. Provost Rohrbacher and the “Floridense” seal Ep. 30 extras included a glimpse into NCF’s pro wrestling years. Ep. 23 talked education, China, and beats Ep. 27 brought Yippie vibes Grade-equivalent evaluations have attracted some ire. Rohrbacher recently wrote on the traditional NCF system. Anderson Brown (Ep. 3) wrote last year about Rancourt. Steve Waldman, Interfluidity, 3 May 2023: “We Haunt.” First five eps can be heard by scrolling way down here. Please send us your stories, pictures, audio: palmcourtpodcast@gmail.com
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    34 mins
  • New College, Political Polarization and the Lorax with Dr. Eric Schickler - Author of Partisan Nation
    Jun 26 2025
    This episode of the Palm Court Podcast features an engaging conversation with Dr. Eric Schickler, a New College alum from the class of '87 and the coauthor of Partisan Nation⁠: The Dangerous New Logic of American Politics in a Nationalized Era. Eric shares his unique journey and insights into political science and the current state of higher education. Plus there's plenty of new details about the legendary Lorax Rebellion of May 1988. We kick off with Eric's unexpected path to New College. He recounts his initial culture shock upon arriving in Florida, but quickly highlights the transformative social and academic experience that followed. The conversation then delves into Eric's career as a political science professor at UC Berkeley since 1997, where he continues to be inspired by his New College education. We explore his research on nationalized polarization in the U.S., as detailed in his book, Partisan Nation, co-authored with Paul Pierson. Eric explains how this polarization differs from historical divides, as everything, including state politics, has become nationalized, leading to concerning dynamics within American politics. Crucially, Eric connects this broader political trend to the recent events at New College, viewing the "hostile takeover" by Governor DeSantis as a microcosm of nationalized polarization. He illustrates how traditionally supportive local Republican legislators, who once valued New College for its community benefits, now align with a national culture war agenda, prioritizing national political aspirations over local interests. We also discuss Eric's ongoing research into the polarization of higher education over the past 45 years. He points out a significant shift in the Republican party, moving from general support for higher education in the 1980s and 90s to increasing criticism and diminishment of its value. Then we pivot to Eric's eyewitness account of the Lorax Rebellion in 1988, a key event in New College's history. As SAC Chair at the time, Eric provides an insider's perspective on the student-led efforts to save the "grove" from airport expansion. He details the strategic involvement of lawyers, the formation of the "Save the Green Space" nonprofit, and the challenges faced in securing legal and financial support. Eric vividly recounts the emotional day of the bulldozing, the arrests of students, and the subsequent legal battles, emphasizing the unity and determination of the student body. Finally, Eric shares insights into his baccalaureate thesis, which explored government policy toward technology in the early 1990s. We close with Eric's reflection on New College's profound and lasting impact on his life and intellectual development, underscoring its unique ability to foster iconoclastic thinkers. Notes: Eric's Spring 2023 Appearance on Trending in Ed with Mike Palmer Partisan Nation: The Dangerous New Logic of American Politics in a Nationalized Era, by Paul Pierson & Eric Schickler We know Nick Tampio, editor, Journal of Politics (and Schickler too) Rolling admissions comes up a lot August 1987 SRQ: officially “hot” to “sweltering” Gene Lewis, bureaucracy scholar “Welfare Queen” was a Reagan tentpole Local conservatives like Sen. Bob Johnson and Gen. Rolland V. Heiser “My civil rights book” 1968: “the campus stuff” 1980: “end of liberal Republicans” Higher ed has risen from $385 to $9,750 annually in today’s $. Dean Barylski, dealmaker “Secure the land to the north” still cooking We know Jonathan White and Merlin Mann, too “SAC” is “Student Allocation Committee” Rob Westerfeldt on Barylski Col. Adam Oler Judy Kavanaugh We know Jen Granick The Fauves were unrelated to Grant Morrison’s UK band. Langdon Winner and Jacques Ellul, tech theorists P Funk, “Flash LIght” Dee-Lite, “Groove is in the Heart
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    52 mins
  • From Palm Court to It's Christmastown - Jeb Lund's Journey
    May 20 2025
    Jeb Lund joins Mike, Megan, and Grant to talk about his work in journalism at places like Rolling Stone, The Nation, and GQ, among others and on It's Christmastown, his popular podcast about Hallmark Channel movies. We learn how Jeb wound up at New College, how his thesis about British cryptography in World War 2 got turned into pulp, and how he wound up covering the Alt Graduation Event for The Nation in 2024. Jeb also provides advice on how to get active in shaping the coverage of New College as political tides in Florida continue to shift. Want to learn how this podcast was almost named The Canary in the Swamp? Or why people might actually want to listen to smart people talk about inane movies on the Hallmark Channel? Listen in to find out. Subscribe wherever you get your podcasts. Video episodes now up on Youtube and Spotify. 00:00 Introduction and Welcoming the Guest 01:06 Jeb Lund's Origin Story 03:30 College Life and Challenges 07:57 Career Journey and Writing 11:03 Freelancing and Journalism 11:42 Public Facing Role and Podcasting 14:58 Involvement with New College Alumni 21:25 The Recency Bias in News Reporting 22:39 Challenges in Speculative Journalism 23:11 New College: A Canary in the Swamp 24:01 The Power of Public Pressure 25:03 Corruption in Florida Politics 28:36 The Future of New College 30:14 Sports and Campus Culture 32:10 Journalistic Challenges and Personal Reflections 40:18 Concluding Thoughts and Final Messages NOTES: CEDA is the “Cross-Examination Debate Association” Ephedra is the herb that produces ephedrine, a formerly legal stimulant sold as Mini-Thins, a.k.a. “trucker’s speed.” (Today’s Mini-Thins are ephedrine-free.) Frederick Winterbotham revealed Bletchley Park’s Ultra secrets 30 years after WWII. It’s Christmastown is Jeb and Dave Roth exploring Hallmark Network cultural productions. Livy, Roman historian Gawker was sued out of existence by Tampa-based wrestler Hulk Hogan, backed by tech billionaire Peter Thiel, in 2016. Pablo Torre Finds Out went deep into NCF’s sports Mobute Sese Seko did have fantastic hats Shanon Ingles chatted here back in Ep. 4 Watch Alt Grad live on May 22, 2025 Write state legislators to make things happen The Hope Florida scandal is still growing The Rick Piccolo scandal also, though less about his father’s NCF involvement Property law is a theme Mighty Banyans’ deep roster The Great Books program Don Gaetz busts trustees
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    43 mins
  • An Antarctic Wedding and Alumni Engagement - A Conversation with Monica Lewman Wulf and Stuart Clarry
    Apr 17 2025
    Join Mike Palmer, Grant Balfour, and Megan Citron, along with "friend of the show" Joanne Dramko, for a captivating conversation with New College of Florida (NCF) alumni and NCAA Board Members Monica Lewman Wulf and Stuart Clarry. This episode offers a delightful mix of personal stories and reflections on the New College experience with a focus on Alumni Engagement. Monica shares the details of her recent Antarctic wedding to fellow New College alum, Henry, a celebration that uniquely incorporated their desire for unique experiences and, of course, penguins. Stuart, who was Grant's roommate, reminisces about their time on campus, sharing anecdotes about the self-reliance cultivated at New College and some memorable dorm-life moments. Beyond the personal stories, Monica and Stuart, who are both involved in the Alumni Association, provide valuable insights into alumni engagement and the complexities of navigating trust and communication with the new college administration, including their perspectives on the recent contentious alumni event with President Richard Corcoran. Whether you're an alum or simply interested in the unique dynamics of a liberal arts college, this episode is a must-listen. Don't forget to subscribe to the Palm Court Podcast for more engaging conversations and updates from the New College community! Troy Winfrey was in an earlier episode; his spouse just published a touching piece on how a terminal diagnosis shaped their relationship. Ben Brown, the former New College Alumni Association (NCAA) chair, resigned dramatically shortly before the College Hall event. He gave five reasons. Henry and Monica at the 1988 semi-formal and in Antarctica. Morning Bob: p. 5, left. James P. Kelly: journalist, naturalist, scholar. “Big weekend”: Alt Liberal Arts hosts a rival speaking event, and then NCF’s upcoming star speaker was charged with rape. “Being at UF and the state politics and all” means Ben Sasse, Joseph Ladapo, and the Hamilton Center (no relation to NCF’s Ham Center). John Lithgow reads “20 Lessons on Tyranny” by Timothy Snyder. “Bought a brick”: in Palm Court, custom-engraved. Nimbus was charmingly homespun, then got glossy, then vanished. “Gender at the state level.” The Novo Collegian Alliance is (sort of) a shadow NCAA oriented to student needs; NCF Freedom is oriented toward governance issues. The Q&A was a crash. Florida universities face “performance-based funding” based on KPIs, one of which is “alumni engagement.” “Florida will no longer be full of Boomers.” Things might change sooner; ruby-red Escambia County, home of now-embattled UWF, just flipped blue.
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    1 hr and 8 mins
  • Emergency Gene Hackman In Memoriam Oscars and True Crime Edition
    Mar 1 2025
    The Palm Court Podcast presents an emergency Oscars 2025 episode devoted to the Gene Hackman situation! With Suzanne Clayton, Palm Court's Oscars predictions oracle, Mike, Megan and Grant prognosticate on the Oscars and reminisce about past Oscars shared in a Whatsapp Group Chat, including the infamous Will Smith slap of Chris Rock. Clayton, a five-time winner of the Palm Court Oscar pool, offers her keen and at times surprising insights on the nominees, including her thoughts on Best Picture and Best Animated Feature despite only having seen 2 of the 10 Best Picture nominees. Then, the hosts pay tribute to the legendary actor's illustrious career, from his breakout role in The French Connection to his iconic portrayal of Lex Luthor, his brilliant cameo in Young Frankenstein, his roles in The Royal Tannenbaums, Unforgiven, Get Shorty and more. Quite the cinematic oeuvre! Finally, we take a deep dive into the mysterious circumstances surrounding the Hackman "incident" and the three dogs, one dead in a closet. We try to piece together the timeline of events and speculate on the cause of death for Hackman and his wife. We also discuss the role of the dogs in the incident and whether or not they were involved in any foul play. Plus, we dconclude a quick "dead pool" on who will be the next celebrity to die. Yikes?!?! Listen and subscribe now, and be sure to check out our previous Oscars 2025 episode featuring Kim McShane and Harrison Bender! Don't miss any of it heading into (and coming out of?) the Big Show on Sunday night. Time Stamps: 00:00 Introduction and Special Guests 01:12 Oscars 2025 Predictions 03:13 Movie Reviews and Opinions 13:42 Gene Hackman Tribute 20:38 Remembering the Departed: In Memoriam Discussion 21:12 True Crime Talk: Natalie Wood's Mysterious Death 21:56 Heart to Heart: TV Nostalgia and Dog Stories 22:37 Unraveling a Bizarre Crime Scene 24:43 Speculating on Celebrity Deaths 28:56 Oscar Predictions and Deadpool Picks 32:55 Wrapping Up: Final Thoughts and Farewells
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    35 mins
  • Our 2nd Annual Oscars Extravaganza 2025 with Kim McShane and Harrison Bender
    Feb 28 2025
    Join us for our annual Oscars preview! We're diving deep into the 2025 Academy Award nominations with a panel of film enthusiasts. We're discussing the snubs, the surprises, and the sure-to-be winners. From Best Picture to Best Supporting Actor, we're dissecting it all. We're also sharing our personal Oscar memories and trivia. Did you know that a screenwriter once won an Oscar nearly 40 years after his death? Or that Judy Garland was only 16 when she starred in The Wizard of Oz? We hit on some trivia, recall film adventures at New College and beyond. And dive deep with Kim, Harrison, Megan, Grant, and Mike. Don't miss it! Tune in for a lively discussion about the biggest night in Hollywood. Don't forget to subscribe to the Palm Court Podcast for more great content! Time Stamps 00:00 Introduction and Welcome 00:56 Guest Introductions and Film Backgrounds 01:42 Kim McShane's Film Journey 07:21 Harrison Bender's Film Career 10:49 Megan's Cinematic Experiences 15:02 Oscar Nominees Discussion 32:36 Timothee Chalamet's Potential Record-Breaking Win 33:20 Hidden Gems and Overlooked Performances 34:02 Succession and Other TV Show Mentions 34:33 Colman Domingo's Stellar Performance 35:44 Leading Actor and Actress Predictions 38:39 Best Picture Contenders 40:11 Documentary Highlights 46:25 Animated Feature Film Recommendations 50:45 Best Original Score and Song Discussions 54:29 Final Thoughts and Predictions Stripes Tired Old Queen at the Movies Kim on TCM Funny Face The Philadelphia Story Eventive does indie film. DOC NYC Sarasota Film Festival is run by alum Mark Famiglio. Separated features past guest Cpt. Jonathan White. The Tarnished Angels Dalton Trumbo interview The Brutalist was not about Palm Court architect I.M. Pei nor about Hungarian refugee history prof Dr. Laszlo Deme… directly. Clarence Maclin interview Hale County This Morning, This Evening The FAMU Marching 100 The Queer soundtrack Diane Warren has 16 Oscar noms. Between the Temples Steve Rosenbluth’s win was discussed in the last Oscars ep. George Kuchar made a lo-fi short film at NCF. “Smell-o-vision”: John Waters’ Polyester came to NCF with the original “Odorama” scratch-and-sniff cards. The Swimmer Beyond the Valley of the Dolls and The Carrie Nations
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    1 hr and 3 mins
  • A Special Time-Travel Interlude: Revisiting New College c. 1968-69
    Feb 14 2025
    Step into the world of New College in 1968-69—a time of radical possibility, political upheaval, and unapologetic experimentation. Mike, Grant, and Megan are joined by a group of alumni who lived it and were recently reunited, decades later—Max Reif, David Ross, Andy Roman, David Adams, Tom Weislocher—after a cache of evocative photos from the era unleashed a powerful torrent of memories and feelings. The photos, most taken by David Ross, transport us to familiar places: the Pei Dorms, Ham Center, Palm Court, even Cars of Yesteryear, and also reveal the bonding experiences that brought this group together: a psychedelic hearse trip to Washington D.C. to a yippie protest at Nixon's inauguration, an unforgettable ISP wilderness expedition on Upper Captiva Island, the formation of the "Happy Bunny Farm" commune in upstate New York, plus a side-trip (for some) to Woodstock. The guests recount their memories of those years while reflecting on the passage of time and the heartfelt challenges of growing older and staying true to those vivacious youngsters in the photos. Their energy, curiosity, and lifelong quest for knowledge is palpable (and familiar) in this reunion and meeting of hearts and minds. Show Notes: New College’s charter class in 1964 had a (theoretically) three-year system, offering intensive study year-round. The first students graduated in 1967. Historian Arnold Toynbee served on the faculty. The alumni association formally defines an “alum” as anyone who successfully completes one contract. Upper Captiva Island is now a ritzy resort refuge. Before the 1970s, it was wilder. Photo: The Captiva Island ISP group in front of Ham Center included Laurel Roth and Sal Lee Anderson (with feathers), then Kitty Warner, and between her and Andy, Cindy Cole (also part of the farm near Dryden NY). How to cook a raccoon. “Design-y campus” - “Novum Collegium”: The dorms surrounding Palm Court and the school’s emblem were both designed by I.M. Pei after an ancient Greek Four Winds motif. “Middle of the Everglades”: Myakka State Park, part of the Everglades watershed, is 40 minutes from campus. LSD was only banned federally in October 1968. The Golden Buddha’s (formerly The Mecca’s) minaret became a pan-Asian-kitsch landmark. Sarasota Classic Car Museum was a longstanding attraction recently evicted and razed to make room for federally controversial baseball fields. New College’s mangos were featured in our Jono Miller episode. Phosphorescent plankton is part of the area’s dreamlike biology. The Isle of Wight Festival was Britain’s equally-iconic answer to Woodstock. For decades, David Pini’s avant garde student films inspired generations of NC filmmakers. Meher Baba, spiritual leader. There are annual Rainbow Gatherings in Ocala Nat’l Forest. The Yippies held a counter-inauguration in DC in 1969. Jim Feeney was mentioned in our Mike Campbell episode. Paul Krassner, The Realist publisher, satirist.. Dream interpretation was Freud’s original goal; psychoanalysis, an afterthought. More vintage New College photos. TIME STAMPS: 00:00 Introduction and Excitement for the Special Edition 00:47 Introducing the Special Guests from the 60s and 70s 01:39 The Story Behind the Photos 02:55 Reconnecting After Decades 03:31 Life at New College in the Late 60s 05:45 The Captiva Island Expedition 07:54 Reflections on Florida and New College 15:17 The Happy Bunny Farm Commune 19:03 The Cultural Shift of the 60s 24:08 Sailing Adventures and College Memories 25:05 Life at New College: Community and Isolation 26:29 Woodstock and Other Festivals 27:49 David Peeney and New College Legends 32:57 Protests and Academic Struggles 35:16 Reflections on Aging and Mortality 38:07 Final Thoughts and Farewells
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    40 mins
  • Making Sense of the New College Story with Investigative Journalist Kathryn Joyce
    Jan 20 2025
     In this episode of Palm Court Podcast, we talk with journalist Kathryn Joyce about the state of public education in Florida. Joyce, an investigative editor at In These Times and author of two books on the Christian right, discusses her background and interest in the right-wing political movement’s influence on education. Her recent article, The New College Gambit, chronicles the New College story and forms the foundation of the conversation in this episode. We discuss the right-wing takeover of New College, a small public liberal arts college in Florida, and the implications for higher education. The takeover, led by Governor Ron DeSantis, included a push to reconstitute the student body with athletes and the installation of new trustees with an agenda to dismantle the school along ideological lines. We also discuss the impact of the ouster of Ben Sasse from the presidency at the University of Florida and the apparent political spoil system in Florida higher education. Joyce discusses the potential outcomes of the takeover, including the possibility that New College will fail or be absorbed into the University of South Florida. She also discusses the importance of organizations such as PEN America and the American Association of University Professors (AAUP) in defending academic freedom. The episode ends with a call to action for listeners to support independent journalists and news outlets and to pay attention to the threats to higher education in the United States and around the world. Don't miss it! NOTES: “The New College Gambit,” In These Times, 9 Dec 24, is one of the better accounts of recent events at New College. “A Search for Answers. A Search for Blame,” was Joyce’s post-Parkland school-discipline story. Flagler College hosted the non-partisan Freedom to Teach conference. Libby Harrity and Steven Walker episodes. “Classical education” could come to the D.O.D.’s 161 schools. “The Trustee Solution” is an article trustee Mark Bauerlein wrote for trustee Christopher Rufo’s City Journal, advocating trustees make bold political moves. Cost-per-student has begun to alarm the conservative Board of Governors. Ben Sasse’s extravagant spending and sudden exit changed the political climate. Liv Coleman is a University of Tampa prof and former political candidate. Randy Fine, who proposed merging NCF involuntarily into a larger university in 2020, then lost a bid to become president of FAU, is currently running to fill a national seat vacated by a Trump appointment. Aaron Hillegass, tech entrepreneur and former NCF data science director. NCF’s largest class ever remains the 861 students of 2015-16; more students have been accepted and enrolled recently, but subsequently transferred out in large numbers as well. AAUP’s more activist stance resulted, in part, in a detailed report on New College. Universities did not fare well under Pinochet. TIMESTAMPS: 00:00 Welcome and Introductions 01:03 Reflecting on January 6th and New College 01:18 Interview with Journalist Kathryn Joyce 02:25 Kathryn Joyce's Background and Work 03:12 The Right-Wing Influence on Education 06:07 The New College Takeover 08:27 Challenges and Future of New College 12:21 Broader Implications and Activism 21:46 Final Thoughts and Campus Reflections 33:00 Conclusion and Farewell
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    34 mins