If you’ve ever felt like staffing your pet care business is an endless headache, you’re not alone — and this episode of the Overdog Podcast is packed with insights you can’t afford to miss. Fern sits down with Joe Latona of Walker Scout, a recruiting pro who’s helped countless dog daycare and boarding businesses find and keep the right people. They dive into the real reasons you’re not attracting great applicants, how your job postings might actually be scaring people away, and what you should really be looking for when you hire.

You’ll hear some fresh, sometimes surprising strategies for finding the best candidates — including why Indeed isn’t the only answer, how to get your staff to help recruit, and when it’s worth bending your own rules to grab someone amazing. Whether you’re overwhelmed by turnover or just want to finally feel confident about your team, this conversation will get you thinking differently about how to build a staff that actually sticks around — and helps your business thrive.

This week on the Overdog Podcast, Fern opens up about his own unconventional journey — one filled with risks, pivots, and a relentless drive to outwork and outsmart the competition. From his early career experiments to finding his way in the dog business, Fern shares how hard work, creativity, and a willingness to fail forward have shaped his success. You’ll hear personal stories that prove you don’t need to be the most talented person in the room if you’re willing to put in the work and take some big swings.

If you’ve ever felt stuck, intimidated by your competition, or unsure about taking that next leap in your dog daycare or boarding business, this episode will give you the perspective and motivation you need. Fern explores why playing to your strengths, owning your outcomes, and doubling down on your passions can set you apart — even when the odds seem stacked against you. Get ready for some real talk that just might light a fire under you.

Ever wondered what it really feels like to work in your own dog daycare or boarding business? This episode flips the script by diving deep into the staff’s perspective — straight from someone who lived it. With stories from both small, tightly-run teams and massive, fast-growing facilities, you’ll get a candid look at what it’s like on the front lines: the good, the frustrating, and the things that truly make a difference to your employees. It’s not just about managing people — it’s about understanding them.

You’ll also hear how onboarding, communication, leadership styles, and even little things like snacks and shout-outs shape the culture and morale in a pet care business. If you want to keep your best people happy, motivated, and sticking around, this conversation is full of honest insights that you can’t afford to miss. Tune in to hear what your team wishes you knew.