The Real Housewives of Potomac Part 2 reunion was HOT, and joining Carlos, Dustin, Claudia, and Blue to break it all down is Potomac’s own Jassi! She’s here to set the record straight, share her experience on the reunion stage, and address the truth behind those alleged “recordings.” Plus, we dive into the America’s Next Top Model documentary — and whew… there is a lot to unpack.

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Grammy-winning songwriter, Broadway star, producer, and the longest-running Real Housewife in franchise history — Kandi Burruss sits down with TS Madison for a deeply personal conversation about building an empire, surviving the villain edit, and coming out of the matrix.

Madison kicks things off by honoring Kandi as the first person to introduce her to mainstream media, and from there, it's all love, all real, and all business. Kandi TALKS HER SHIT like we've NEVER heard before — running down a résumé that stretches from signing with Xscape at 16, to writing "No Scrubs" for TLC, to becoming the first Black woman to win ASCAP's Songwriter of the Year award. Add in 14 straight seasons of "The Real Housewives of Atlanta," a Grammy, a Tony nomination, an Emmy nomination, winning "The Masked Singer," an adult entertainment empire (yes, she has the awards to prove it), and five Broadway productions — including the record-breaking "Othello" with Denzel Washington, currently "& Juliet," and the upcoming "Joe Turner's Come and Gone" starring Taraji P. Henson and directed by Debbie Allen.

Then, the conversation goes there. Kandi opens up about her divorce from Todd Tucker, addressing the rumors, the prenup speculation, and the internet lawyers who don't even practice in Georgia. She sets the record straight — and she's not here to confirm or deny anything else. She also gets candid about what it's been like to always be cast as the villain — from middle school, to Xscape, to the Housewives reunion couch — and what it takes to keep pushing when people project their issues onto your success.

Also in this episode: Would Kandi ever return to RHOA? (Not right now, honey.) Which Housewives friendships were real? (Kenya and Cynthia made the cut.) What would she ask NeNe Leakes if they sat down together? (Spoiler: "What did I do to you?") And could we see an all-Black reimagining of "Little Shop of Horrors" starring TS Madison as Audrey II? Kandi says she's interested — and we are manifesting this into existence.

It's not too late to catch Kandi on Broadway, starring in "& Juliet!" at the Stephen Sondheim Theatre until March 8, 2026. Get your tickets now!

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Can’t stop looking for Act iii clues?? Us too. This week on Outlaws, we’re taking a break from playing detective and revisiting our very first episode with THE Knowles family matriarch, the one and only Ms. Tina Knowles!

TS Madison and Ms. Tina look back at the inspiration for her book, the moment she knew her children were destined to be superstars, the queer legacy of Uncle Johnny, the poignant stories behind the names Beyoncé and Solange, and a July 29th revelation that moves Ms. Tina, and all of us, to tears.

Tina Knowles’ memoir “Matriarch” is out now.

Subscribe to "OUTLAWS" with TS Madison for conversations that honor the legends who made space for all of us. Check out past episodes with Chappell Roan, Bob the Drag Queen, Saucy Santana and more!

"Outlaws" is hosted by TS Madison, and is part of the Outspoken Network from iHeartPodcasts and iHeartRadio, co-produced by Turtle Run Entertainment.

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