On this episode of Out Of Office: A Travel Podcast, the boys treat the ancient aqueducts like a flume ride and splash right into Rome! Kiernan and Ryan talk Emperors, SPQR, why columns make the best decor, plus just a touch of new Pope speculation.

Our episode on Vatican City:
https://outofofficepod.com/podcast/episode-197-vatican-city/

Things We Talked About on Today’s Episode:

“The Fall of Rome” podcast

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-fall-of-rome-podcast/id1141563910

“SPQR” by Mary Beard

https://a.co/d/71DS93Z

“Roman Holiday”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1rL5QxXF0g8

Colosseum

https://colosseo.it/en/area/the-colosseum/

Forum

https://colosseo.it/en/area/the-roman-forum/

Palatine Hill

https://colosseo.it/en/area/the-palatine/

Pantheon

https://www.pantheonroma.com/home-eng/

Borghese Gallery

https://galleriaborghese.beniculturali.it/en/

Bath of Diocletian

https://museonazionaleromano.beniculturali.it/en/baths-of-diocletian/

Trevi Fountain

https://www.blacktomato.com/us/inspirations/the-history-of-romes-trevi-fountain/

Spanish Steps

https://romesite.com/spanish-steps.html

Catacombs of Saint Sebastian

https://www.catacombe.org/

Lego Trevi Fountain

https://www.lego.com/en-us/product/trevi-fountain-21062

On this episode of “Out of Office: A Travel Podcast,” the boys celebrate the pod’s 200th episode with travel icon Rick Steves! Kiernan chats with Rick about his latest book “On the Hippie Trail: Istanbul to Kathmandu and the Making of a Travel Writer” and about how keeping a journal can make one into a keener observer of culture.

Rick’s philosophy of travel is that if you haven’t come back changed, you didn’t do it right. This interview will leave you changed.

Plus, a new artistic saint!

Things we talked about in today’s podcast:

Rick Steves’ Europe

https://www.ricksteves.com/

Free scans of every page of Rick’s journal

https://www.ricksteves.com/about-rick/original-hippie-trail-journal

Saint Gaudi!

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/04/14/world/europe/antoni-gaudi-architect-saint.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare

Wanna help us celebrate 200? Leave a review (please)!

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/out-of-office-a-travel-podcast/id1438098925

And a final note from Ryan and Kiernan: RIP POPE FRANCIS!

On this episode of Out of Office: A Travel Podcast, Ryan takes us on three day trips from Santiago, Chile. First is Valparaíso, a coastal city known for its hills, historic funiculars, and street art. Then on to Valle de Colchagua, where wine tastings and a standout meal at Fuegos de Apalta make for a vino day. Finally, head to the Andes to soak in the mineral pools at Termas Valle de Colina. Plus, Kiernan talks about his old friend Corn Husker 55!

Leave us a 5 Star Review!
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/out-of-office-a-travel-podcast/id1438098925

Santiago Episode:
https://outofofficepod.com/podcast/episode-194-santiago-chile/

The Hills:
https://www.moon.com/travel/trip-ideas/the-hills-of-valparaiso-chile/

Restaurants: La Concepción & La Caperucita y el Lobo

https://museobaburizza.cl/en/home/

Our wine tour provider:
https://colchaguawinetours.com/