In this episode Toby sits down with Theo Kogan of the Lunachicks! She talks about going from Ecuador to Brooklyn, ballet, discovering rock and punk, parents converting to Sikhism, going to LaGuardia and meeting the bandmates, the scene back then, first show in '88, Theo & the Skyscrapers, having a kid, therapy, becoming a make up artist, book, the documentary, playing again after their 17 year hiatus and more!

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In this episode Toby sits down with artist Chloé Trujillo! They chat about Paris, her parents being designers, studying science first, moving to NYC, moving to LA and meeting Robert, their kids, releasing all her music and all her different musical projects, going vegan, creating art on instruments, designing eco-friendly swimsuits, winning awards, finding her identity after children and more!

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In this episode Toby sits down with Underoath drummer/vocalist Aaron Gillespie! They chat about his strict religious upbringing, going from Christian music to grunge, music in black churches as inspiration, baggage from his religious childhood, playing in church band, Underoath, quitting the band because of anxiety, being a hypochondriac and working out, playing shows, his son, playing for Paramore and more!!

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In this episode Toby sits down with Jesse Leach of Killswitch Engage! He talks Rhode Island, growing up religious, discovering punk rock, spirituality in music, hip hop, Killswitch Engage and his other projects, mental health issues becoming a mental health advocate, throat surgery, coming back stronger than ever, Melissa Cross, recharging and projects during the lockdown and more!

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In this episode Toby sits down with drummer Benny Horowitz! He talks about New Jersey, old DIY tactics, drums, his first shows, his parents, touring, moving out of the city, his earlier bands, music business being manipulative, the band on hiatus, meeting his wife, his kids, starting other bands, his podcast, having a vegetarian family, lifestyle and more!

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In this episode Toby sits down with singer/songwriter Brian Fallon! He chats about having kids and going on tour, his mom being a musician in the 60s, church, New Jersey, his mom teaching him to sing, no swearing on any of his records because of his mom, discovering punk, NYC, Gaslight Anthem, getting bullied by punks, DIY punk clothes, seeking approval, tattoos, supporting up and coming bands, success and major labels, his kids, the band reuniting, working with Springsteen and more!

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In this episode Toby and Matt Henderson sit down with hardcore musician and entrepreneur Martín Stewart! He talks about being born in LA, his brother introducing him to punk, trading sports for music, baseball, straight edge, Terror, Donnybrook, almost becoming a vet tech, art & design, being invovled in a cannabis company, Sound & Fury, therapy, using social media in a healthy way and more!

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In this episode Toby sits down with hardcore manager and label owner Ricky Singh! He talks about going from Flushing, Queens to Long Island, Punk-O-Rama compilations ,LIHC, Backtrack, trading in sports for playing music, Flatspot Records, Reaper, Bridge 9, Backtrack ending and getting a job in the industry, hip hop in the scene, the songwriting process, new Flatspot releases, the current hardcore scene and more!

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