On Scope: The Marketing Podcast cover art

On Scope: The Marketing Podcast

On Scope: The Marketing Podcast

By: Host Mike Berberich and Producer Ryan Dinger
Listen for free

About this listen

On Scope is the official podcast of the ANA, an association serving the marketing needs of more than 50,000 brands that collectively invest more than $400 billion in marketing and advertising annually. The show is the most authoritative and thought-provoking podcast available on marketing. You’ll hear candid conversations with some of marketing’s smartest and most influential leaders, on topics that matter most to you.Copyright 2025 On Scope: The Marketing Podcast Economics Marketing Marketing & Sales Politics & Government
Episodes
  • Spotting Red Flags in MarTech with Danilo Tauro
    Nov 20 2025

    Danilo Tauro has built a career on his ability to connect people and processes to emerging technologies that drive growth and future-proof business strategies. A veteran who has worked with leading organizations like P&G, Amazon, and Uber, he now serves as a senior advisor at McKinsey & Co. and managing partner of the brand-new VC firm, CartographAI. With years of experience evaluating emerging MarTech tools, Danilo shares his best tips and insights for how marketers can spot both red and green flags when it comes to assessing tech solutions.

    Along with host Mike Berberich, Danilo covers how marketers can go beyond the vendor demo and see what is actually useful about a tech tool or platform and how it suits their specific needs, his top five questions to ask tech vendors when evaluating new tools, and how marketers can be a better partner for tech solution providers.

    On Marketing News You Might Have Missed, Mike and show producer Ryan Dinger discuss new Gartner research that indicates only 5 percent of marketers are realizing significant gains on business outcomes with their generative AI efforts, speculating that the technology’s promise of complete industry overhaul might be overblown.

    Want even more tips to better evaluate and select MarTech tools for your brand? Check out the ANA’s Technology Practice, which helps marketers make smarter choices about AI and other technologies by providing practical tools, guidance, and peer insights. Explore the portfolio of resources by visiting www.ana.net/technology.

    The On Scope team would love to hear from you! If you have a topic or guest idea, you can email them at onscope@ana.net.

    Show More Show Less
    43 mins
  • How to Make Marketing Experiments That Actually Work with Paul Boruta
    Nov 13 2025

    Paul Boruta is a two-time startup founder and advertising industry veteran with a deep passion for AI and marketing technology. In 2017, he founded Slingwave to tackle some of the most complex challenges in marketing analytics, attribution, and media optimization to empower businesses in making informed marketing investment decisions. He joins the show to break down incrementality in marketing and discuss how to set up experiments that actually work.

    Along with host Mike Berberich, Paul covers why the industry is wrong to be so fixated on multi-touch attribution, how organizations can use incrementality to their advantage, and what the difference is between interesting datapoints and those that are meaningful to driving business outcomes.

    On Marketing News You Might Have Missed, Mike and show producer Ryan Dinger discuss a blockbuster podcast partnership between Spotify and Netflix, speculating on what the new deal means for brands partnering with content creators and debating whether this news means every brand needs to be in the podcast space or not.

    If our conversation with Paul has you itching to turn every marketing test into campaign traction, then you need to check out the ANA’s Certified ANA Marketing Professional (CAMP) program. Through a series of self-paced training modules, you’ll learn the frameworks, analytics, and real-world skills to turn your data insights into activations that drive tangible business growth. Learn more about how you can get certified by visiting www.ana.net/camp.

    The On Scope team would love to hear from you! If you have a topic or guest idea, you can email them at onscope@ana.net.

    Show More Show Less
    46 mins
  • Marketing Is in an Existential Crisis with Jay Mandel
    Nov 6 2025

    With more than 20 years working for major brands like MasterCard all the way down to new startups, Jay Mandel has seen it all in marketing. With a career spent helping companies and leaders move past performative marketing into accountable, purpose-driven systems that align people and profit, he has his finger squarely on the pulse of our industry. And that’s why marketers should take notice when he sounds alarm bells, like he did earlier this year when he wrote that the burnout marketers are currently experiencing is due to industry-wide structural failures.

    Jay, who is the founder of the Marketing Accountability Council, joins the On Scope podcast to discuss the growing trend of marketers feeling burnt out or disenfranchised, often focusing on performative work tasks versus those that drive real results. Along with host Mike Berberich, Jay unpacks how our industry arrived at this moment, why modern marketing feels more like a grift than a means for building relationships with customers, and how both marketing leaders and those that report up to them can address and repair these issues.

    On This Week in ANA Magazine, editor Matthew Schwartz joins Mike to discuss a new article on the ins and outs of zero click search, an emerging and increasingly important trend that marketers need to be on top of. Matthew shares some tips for how marketers might prepare for this new AI-powered search reality.

    If your marketing efforts are starting to feel stale, it’s time for some new inspiration. ANA National Industry Conferences put you in the room with the CMOs and marketing leaders who are creating real progress for our industry and driving tangible growth for their brands. See what’s coming up on the 2026 calendar by visiting www.ana.net/conferences.

    The On Scope team would love to hear from you! If you have a topic or guest idea, you can email them at onscope@ana.net.

    Show More Show Less
    54 mins
No reviews yet
In the spirit of reconciliation, Audible acknowledges the Traditional Custodians of country throughout Australia and their connections to land, sea and community. We pay our respect to their elders past and present and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples today.