• S1E18 | Fascinating Christians Throughout History with Bud Bence
    May 7 2026

    Hello and welcome to Not That Kind of Christian! Join David Drury and Dr. Bud Bents as they explore fascinating figures in church history, from Polycarp to Martin Luther and the Anabaptists. Discover how these leaders' decisions and convictions continue to inspire faith and integrity today!


    Hosted By: David Drury


    Produced By: Seth Strand and Lantern


    Edited By: Seth Strand


    Network Provided by: Lantern


    Lantern is a ministry sponsored by Wesley Seminary. We empower faith-driven leaders, churches, and organizations to connect, grow, and serve through a trusted network rooted in Holiness values—shining as a light in the world.

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    46 mins
  • S1E17 | Should Christians be using A.I. more, should we be worried, or both? with Kenny Jahng
    Apr 30 2026

    Greetings listeners! Welcome to another episode of Not That Kind of Christian. In this episode, David Drury and church technology expert Kenny Jahng explore the concept of the use of A.I. as a Christian and in the church. Kenny offers many inghts and guidance throught this discussion on how to view the new age of A.I. as a Christian. We hope you enjoy this conversation!


    Hosted By: David Drury


    Produced By: Seth Strand and Lantern


    Edited By: Seth Strand


    Network Provided by: Lantern


    Lantern is a ministry sponsored by Wesley Seminary. We empower faith-driven leaders, churches, and organizations to connect, grow, and serve through a trusted network rooted in Holiness values—shining as a light in the world.


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    47 mins
  • S1E16 | What Did the Early Church Really Believe? with Jerome Van Kuiken
    Apr 23 2026

    In this episode of Not That Kind of Christian, David engages with Dr. Jerome Van Kuiken, a professor of Christian thought, to explore the significance of creeds, the early church, and the relevance of Christian doctrine today. They discuss the importance of understanding the historical context of Christianity, the role of creeds in shaping faith, and the necessity of engaging with Christian thought to navigate contemporary challenges. We hope you are deeply educated by this insightful conversation!


    Hosted By: David Drury


    Produced By: Seth Strand and Lantern


    Edited By: Seth Strand


    Network Provided by: Lantern


    Lantern is a ministry sponsored by Wesley Seminary. We empower faith-driven leaders, churches, and organizations to connect, grow, and serve through a trusted network rooted in Holiness values—shining as a light in the world.



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    38 mins
  • S1E15 | Key questions Christians answer differently with Steve Lennox
    Apr 16 2026

    Hello listeners! In this episode of Not That Kind of Christian, David Drury interviews Dr. Steve Lennox to explore key questions about salvation, including who can be saved, how we can know we are saved, and how fully we can be saved. They discuss theological perspectives, the role of grace, and practical implications for faith and ministry. Enjoy this impactful conversation!




    Hosted By: David Drury


    Produced By: Seth Strand and Lantern


    Edited By: Seth Strand


    Network Provided by: Lantern


    Lantern is a ministry sponsored by Wesley Seminary. We empower faith-driven leaders, churches, and organizations to connect, grow, and serve through a trusted network rooted in Holiness values—shining as a light in the world.

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    39 mins
  • S1E14 | What Does Church History Have to Say to TikTok Christianity with Miranda Cruz
    Apr 9 2026

    Hello and welcome to another episode of Not That Kind of Christian. In this episode, David Drury interviews church history professor Miranda Cruz about the impact of social media on faith, the resurgence of old heresies like Gnosticism, and how church history offers hope and guidance for navigating modern faith challenges. We hope you enjoy this conversation!


    Hosted By: David Drury


    Produced By: Seth Strand and Lantern


    Edited By: Seth Strand


    Network Provided by: Lantern


    Lantern is a ministry sponsored by Wesley Seminary. We empower faith-driven leaders, churches, and organizations to connect, grow, and serve through a trusted network rooted in Holiness values—shining as a light in the world.




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    42 mins
  • S1E13 | One Man's Story of Transformation
    Apr 2 2026

    Hello and welcome to the Not That Kind of Christian Podcast! This episode features a secret guest, nicknamed "Harold", who shares his transformative journey from a troubled youth involved in substance abuse to a dedicated missionary. Harold recounts his transient childhood in a military family, his struggles with faith during his teenage years, and his eventual awakening to spirituality in college. He discusses his calling to missions, the challenges of living in a Muslim country, and the impact of his experiences on his family. We hope you enjoy listening in on this guest's journey.


    Hosted By: David Drury


    Produced By: Seth Strand and Lantern


    Edited By: Seth Strand


    Network Provided by: Lantern


    Lantern is a ministry sponsored by Wesley Seminary. We empower faith-driven leaders, churches, and organizations to connect, grow, and serve through a trusted network rooted in Holiness values—shining as a light in the world.





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    1 hr and 1 min
  • S1E12 | What Roles Have Women Had in the Church? With Elizabeth Glass Turner
    Mar 26 2026

    In this episode of the Not That Kind of Christian podcast, David Drury and Elizabeth Glass Turner explore the often overlooked history of women in the church. They discuss compelling stories of women leaders, the historical evidence that challenges the notion that women's leadership is a recent phenomenon, and the cultural shifts that have influenced perceptions of women's roles in ministry. We hope that you are encouraged to embrace a broader perspective on women's leadership in faith communities!


    Hosted By: David Drury


    Produced By: Seth Strand and Lantern


    Edited By: Seth Strand


    Network Provided By: Lantern


    Lantern is a ministry sponsored by Wesley Seminary. We empower faith-driven leaders, churches, and organizations to connect, grow, and serve through a trusted network rooted in Holiness values—shining as a light in the world.


    Key Notes:


    Many compelling stories of women leaders have been forgotten.

    Historical evidence shows that women have been preaching for centuries.

    Cultural and political factors have influenced women's roles in ministry.

    Understanding local church history can reveal hidden stories of women leaders.

    Junia is recognized as an apostle in the New Testament.

    The Holy Spirit has consistently worked through both women and men.

    Engaging with scripture and history can expand our understanding of women's roles.





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    52 mins
  • S1E11 | Simple Spiritual Practices with Holly Norton and Dave Horne
    Mar 19 2026

    In this episode of Not That Kind of Christian, David Drury engages with guests Holly Norton and Dave Horn to explore the significance of spiritual practices in fostering a deeper connection with God. They discuss personal journeys into spiritual formation, the challenges of silence and solitude, and the importance of resisting productivity in favor of a more contemplative approach to faith. The conversation delves into practical tools like Lectio Divina and Centering Prayer, emphasizing the need for lament in spiritual life and offering actionable steps for reconnecting with God amidst the noise of daily life.


    Hosted By: David Drury


    Produced By: Seth Strand and Lantern


    Edited By: Seth Strand


    Network Provided By: Lantern


    Lantern is a ministry sponsored by Wesley Seminary. We empower faith-driven leaders, churches, and organizations to connect, grow, and serve through a trusted network rooted in Holiness values—shining as a light in the world.


    Key Notes:


    Spiritual practices should be seen as gifts, not burdens.

    Silence and solitude can be intimidating but are essential for spiritual growth.

    Productivity can hinder our connection with God.

    Noticing our feelings and surroundings enhances our prayer life.

    Lectio Divina encourages relational intimacy with Scripture.

    Centering Prayer allows us to rest in God's presence without words.

    Lament is a vital practice for expressing our grief and struggles to God.

    A busy life can lead to burnout and disconnection from God.

    Engaging with nature can help us reconnect with God.

    Having a spiritual friend or director can provide support in our faith journey.



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