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Not Subtle.SEEN Podcast

Not Subtle.SEEN Podcast

By: Melvyn Bermudez & Kj Workman
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Not Subtle, Seen is not your safe, polite business podcast. It’s where real estate pros, entrepreneurs, and industry insiders come to hear the wins, fails, and unfiltered truths nobody else will say out loud.

This show is bold, witty, and unapologetically direct — breaking down the strategies that actually work while laughing at the chaos, clichés, and cringe moments that everyone pretends don’t happen.

If you’re tired of sugarcoated advice and corporate fluff, pull up a chair. You’ll get sharp insights, laugh-out-loud stories, and conversations that keep it real, valuable, and just the right amount of petty.

Not nice. Not watered down. Not Subtle, Seen.

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Episodes
  • Grit, Guidance & Getting After It: The Real Path to Success
    Dec 1 2025

    In this episode, we sit down with Gabe Chisari of Acropolis Realty Group Tampa — a young agent with an old-soul mindset, a generational real estate background, and the kind of drive you wish more people had.

    We get into learning through YouTube University, the value of strong mentors, what wealthy people REALLY do differently, the psychology behind great sales, why “failures” are just training reps, and how grit shapes an entire career.

    Whether you’re growing a business, building a real estate career, or just trying to figure out your next step — this episode gives you real clarity, real honesty, and real strategy.

    KEY TAKEAWAYS • Failure is tuition — learn from it, don’t fear it • Success comes from curiosity and consistency • Sales is human psychology, not pressure • Generational wealth starts with one rental • Reviews matter more than most agents realize • Mentors accelerate growth — especially early • Don’t skip the grind; that’s where the skills come from

    GUEST BIO Gabe Chisari is a Tampa-based Realtor with Acropolis Realty Group, blending generational experience, blue-collar grit, and modern sales psychology. Born and raised in upstate New York, Gabe grew up around flips, rentals, and real estate entrepreneurship before bringing his mindset and hustle to Tampa. Known for his professionalism, negotiation strength, and genuine relationship-building, he’s quickly becoming a standout young agent in the area.

    Instagram: @gabechisari Website: https://acropolisrealtygrouptampa.com/agent/gabriel-chisari Brokerage IG: @acropolisrealtytpa

    LINKS & MENTIONS Guest: Gabe Chisari – @gabechisari Brokerage – @acropolisrealtytpa

    Resources: Acropolis Realty Group Tampa – https://acropolisrealtygrouptampa.com/

    Host: @NotSubtle.Seen Listen Anywhere: https://rss.com/podcasts/not-subtle-seen-podcast/

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    50 mins
  • Cold Calls = Closed Deals: How Top Producers Actually Win | Doug Smith | Smith Lending
    Nov 25 2025

    Cold Calls = Closed Deals, and this episode proves it.

    Mel & KJ sit down with top-producing lender Doug Smith of Smith Lending for a sharp, hilarious, no-excuses breakdown of the one habit agents avoid the most… and the one that actually grows a business: picking up the phone.

    Doug shares how he went from answering phones as a receptionist to building a multi–million dollar lending company rooted in consistency, relationships, follow-up, and actually doing the work. From his early industry days to his current life of kids, cows, and closings on 40 acres — this episode is packed with real strategy and real talk.

    We dig into: • Cold calling and why agents run from the phone • The follow-up muscle (and why yours is weak) • Why your CRM isn’t the problem • Calendaring like a top producer • The difference between “busy” and “productive” • How Doug built a referral-driven business from scratch • Life, family, boundaries, and taking calls next to the cows • Market noise vs. real-world reality

    If you’ve been feeling stuck, unmotivated, disorganized, or overwhelmed — this one will snap you out of it.

    KEY TAKEAWAYS

    • Cold calling still works — most people just refuse to do it.
    • Busy does not mean productive.
    • Consistency beats talent every time.
    • Follow-up isn’t annoying; disappearing is.
    • Simple systems outperform complicated ones.
    • Your calendar predicts your paycheck.
    • Market predictions don’t matter if you’re not making calls.

    GUEST BIO — DOUG SMITH

    Doug Smith is the founder of Smith Lending, a high-performance, relationship-driven mortgage company based in Florida. Starting as a receptionist in 2012, Doug learned the lending world from the inside out and now runs a referral-first business closing nearly 200 loans in 14 months. Known for elite communication, relentless follow-up, and straight-up hustle, Doug brings clarity, simplicity, and realness to an industry full of noise.

    LINKS & MENTIONS

    Guest

    Instagram — https://www.instagram.com/thedouglassmith/ Website — https://www.smithlending.com

    Host

    @NotSubtle.Seen Listen Anywhere — https://rss.com/podcasts/not-subtle-seen-podcast/

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    57 mins
  • Niche Hard, Grow Fast: Real Estate Strategy with Natosha Scungio & Cherilyn Mitchell
    Nov 10 2025

    On this episode of Not Subtle.SEEN, we sit down with two real estate pros who are done playing the same game as everyone else. Cherilyn Mitchell (@cherilyn_realtor) and Natosha Scungio (@the.realtorinred) share how they built brands and businesses that actually reflect who they are — and why that’s their edge.

    If you’re over the hustle hamster wheel and want strategy that works for how you do business, this one's for you. We get into niche clarity, sustainable growth, and systems that make your business run without running you into the ground.

    Key Takeaways

    • Pick a niche that makes you stand out
    • Why “build value” beats “chase leads”
    • The mindset shift from chaos to clarity
    • Real marketing moves that still work in 2025
    • Two different business models, one shared goal: freedom

    Guest Bio Cherilyn Mitchell is a real estate powerhouse known for flipping the “do it all” mindset on its head. Her approach is focused, intentional, and system-driven — no chaos required. Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/cherilyn_realtor

    Natosha Scungio, aka The Realtor in Red, built her business with bold branding, community connection, and a fearless approach to being herself online. Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/the.realtorinred

    Links & Mentions

    • Cherilyn Mitchell IG: https://www.instagram.com/cherilyn_realtor
    • Natosha Scungio IG: https://www.instagram.com/the.realtorinred
    • Host: Not Subtle.SEEN
    • Subscribe: https://rss.com/podcasts/not-subtle-seen-podcast/
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    1 hr and 15 mins
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