• 14.5 A Peek Inside Elementary Science Classrooms with Emily Starr
    Oct 3 2025

    Welcome to the Nonfiction Kid Lit Craft Conversations podcast! In this episode, host Kirsten Larson sits down with Emily Starr, founder of Starrmatica, to explore the craft and business of writing true stories for kids—especially in STEM and science education.

    Discover how to inspire curiosity in young learners, the latest trends in elementary science classrooms, and actionable tips for authors and educators to make science engaging and accessible.

    Emily shares her expertise on integrating nonfiction picture books into science curricula, the impact of the Next Generation Science Standards (NGSS), and how authors can align their work with classroom needs without sacrificing creativity.

    Whether you’re a children’s author, educator, or parent passionate about STEM, this episode is packed with insights, book recommendations, and practical strategies.

    Join Emily's science workshops for children's writers here (or purchase the replays): https://starrmatica.com/kidlitscienceseries/

    Timestamps / Chapters:

    00:00 - Introduction: Meet Emily Starr & Starrmatica

    01:00 - Emily’s Background and Mission in Science Education

    03:17 - The State of Science Learning in US Classrooms

    05:31 - Why Elementary Science Matters: Sparking Curiosity Early

    07:45 - Common Misconceptions & The Importance of Early Science

    10:00 - How Science is Taught Today: Time, Challenges, and Opportunities

    13:05 - The Shift to Inquiry-Based Science & NGSS Overview

    16:20 - Challenges Teachers Face Bringing Science to Classrooms

    18:20 - How Authors Can Support Teachers with STEM Books

    21:00 - What Makes a Great STEM Picture Book for Classrooms

    24:00 - Designing Books to Nurture Curiosity and Inquiry

    27:00 - Book Structures & Storytelling Techniques that Spark Inquiry

    30:00 - Using Books to Model Scientific Thinking & Practices

    33:00 - Advice for Authors: Aligning with Classrooms Without Losing Creativity

    36:00 - Emily’s Book Recommendations & Standout STEM Titles

    39:00 - Emily’s Upcoming Book and Author Workshops

    41:00 - Final Advice for Children’s Nonfiction Authors

    43:00 - Where to Find Emily Starr’s Resources & Closing

    Keywords: nonfiction kid lit, STEM books for kids, science education, elementary science, inquiry-based learning, Next Generation Science Standards, NGSS, children’s book author, writing for kids, science picture books, author resources, teacher resources, book recommendations, Emily Starr, Kirsten Larson, Starrmatica, curriculum guides, science teaching tips, inspiring curiosity, children’s nonfiction, podcast

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    36 mins
  • 14. Self-Publishing Children's Books: From Idea to Success with Award-Winning Author Darcy Pattison
    Sep 19 2025

    Ready to take control of your children's book publishing journey? Join host Kirsten Larson as she interviews self-publishing expert Darcy Pattison, who has successfully published 70+ children's books through her own publishing house, Mim's House Books.

    What You'll Learn:

    • When self-publishing is the right choice vs. traditional publishing
    • How to develop your art directing skills for picture books
    • Essential business skills every indie author needs
    • Marketing strategies that actually work for children's books
    • How to get your books into schools and libraries
    • The truth about making money in self-publishing
    • Using Kickstarter for book launches and pre-orders

    Key Takeaways:

    • Why self-publishing is about "abundance vs. scarcity"
    • The importance of building a backlist for long-term success
    • How to find and work with illustrators (contracts included!)
    • Metadata that boost discoverability
    • Why one book won't make you rich (and what will)

    📖 About Darcy Pattison: Award-winning children's author with 8 traditionally published books and 70+ self-published titles. Founder of Mim's House Books and creator of the upcoming guide "Publish: Find Surprising Success Self-Publishing Your Children's Book."

    🔗 Resources Mentioned:

    • Mim's House Books: mimshousebooks.com
    • Indie Kids Books blog: indiekidsbooks.com
    • Darcy's Kickstarter (launches Sept 15): https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/darcypattison/publish?ref=profile_created&category_id=48

    Timestamps:

    0:00 – Welcome & Introducing Darcy Pattison

    01:48 – Darcy’s Publishing Journey

    05:00 – Betting on Yourself as a Creator

    08:03 – Why Self-Publishing? Speed, Profit & Control

    11:30 – The Power of Series and Backlist

    14:45 – Misconceptions About Self-Publishing 18:12 – Becoming Your Own Art Director

    22:30 – Ensuring Quality for Schools and Libraries

    26:48 – Distribution, Metadata & Marketing Strategy

    32:55 – Kickstarter for Children’s Books

    Perfect for: Children's book authors, illustrators, indie publishers, picture book creators, nonfiction writers, anyone considering self-publishing

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    38 mins
  • 13.5 Accountability & Community with Marcie Colleen
    Sep 5 2025

    Want to finally finish your writing projects? Discover the accountability system that's helped two children's authors publish dozens of books!

    In this episode of Nonfiction Kidlit Craft Conversations, host Kirsten Larson sits down with fellow children's author Marcie Colleen to reveal their secret weapon: an 8-year accountability partnership that starts at 5:30 AM every weekday.

    What You'll Learn:

    • How to find the perfect accountability partner for writers
    • Different accountability systems that actually work (not just morning check-ins!)
    • The "Adequate Daily Progress" hack for preventing frustration
    • How to stay motivated during tough creative periods (including pandemic writing!)
    • Why is only takes small chunks of writing time to make your book a reality
    • Where to find accountability partners in writing communities

    Perfect for: Children's book writers, picture book authors, middle grade writers, nonfiction authors, freelance writers, anyone struggling with writing consistency

    Guest: Marcie Colleen - Author of "Happy Friendsgiving" and multiple children's books, comics, and graphic novels

    Resources Mentioned:

    12x12 Picture Book Writing Challenge

    "The Artist's Way" by Julia Cameron

    "Big Magic" by Elizabeth Gilbert

    Marcie's "Last 100 Days" writing workshop; email Marcie here for information.

    Timestamps:

    00:00 - Introduction: Meet the 8-Year Writing Partnership

    02:30 - How We Started: From Critique Partners to 5:30 AM Accountability

    07:45 - What Is an Accountability Partner? (Definition & Benefits)

    15:20 - Different Accountability Systems That Work

    18:45 - Blocking Distractions: Email, Social Media & Focus Strategies

    21:10 - Grace vs. Discipline: When to Push vs. Rest

    24:45 - Goal Setting Without the Overwhelm

    28:00 - Writing Through COVID: Staying Creative During Crisis

    31:40 - The "Big Magic" Approach to Writer's Block

    34:50 - Habit Formation: Don't Get Off the Bus

    37:25 - Where to Find Your Perfect Accountability Partner

    39:45 - The 100 Days Challenge: Year-End Writing Goals

    42:30 - Lightning Round: Productivity Tools & Recent Wins

    44:15 - The "Adequate Daily Progress" Method Explained

    47:30 - Making Invisible Work Visible: To-Do List Hacks

    49:20 - Final Thoughts: Small Steps, Big Results

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    50 mins
  • 13. The Nonfiction/Fiction Divide with Colleen Paeff
    Aug 1 2025

    🎧 Nonfiction vs. Informational Fiction: Where Do You Draw the Line? | Nonfiction Kidlit Craft Conversations

    Join host Kirsten Larson and Sibert Honor author Colleen Paeff as they explore one of children's literature's most debated topics: the distinction between nonfiction and informational fiction. When should authors stick strictly to documented facts, and when is it okay to fictionalize elements to serve the story?

    In This Episode:

    • How Colleen defines nonfiction vs. informational fiction in her own work

    • Why her books "The Great Stink" and "Firefly Song" stayed nonfiction while her upcoming "Rainbow Truck" and "Pufflings Fly Free" became informational fiction

    • The role of emotional storytelling in factual narratives

    • How research depth affects genre decisions

    • Practical advice for authors struggling with this choice

    • Amazing research organization tips using the Obsidian app

    About the Guest: Colleen Paeff is the Sibert Honor-winning author of "The Great Stink: How Joseph Bazalgette Solved London's Poop Pollution Problem" and the starred-review book "Firefly Song: Lynn Frierson Faust and the Great Smoky Mountain Discovery."

    Connect with Colleen at: https://www.colleenpaeff.com/

    Support the podcast through our Bookshop (we earn a small commission at no cost to you): https://bookshop.org/shop/NonfictionKidlitPodcast

    Perfect for: Children's book authors, educators, librarians, and anyone interested in science writing for kids, research techniques, and the craft of nonfiction storytelling. #NonFictionBooks #ChildrensBooks #KidLit #ScienceBooks #AuthorInterview #WritingCraft #InformationalFiction #PictureBooks #Research

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    30 mins
  • Connecting with Educators Through Conferences with Patricia Newman
    Jul 4 2025

    🎙️Nonfiction Kidlit Craft Conversations | Ep. 12: Connecting with Educators Through Conferences with Patricia Newman

    Want to build relationships with the educators who share your books with kids?

    In this episode, Kirsten chats with Sibert Honoree and environmentalist Patricia Newman, author of Sharks Unhooked, illustrated by Becca Hall (Millbrook Press), about how authors can effectively pitch, present, and participate in teacher and librarian conferences.

    🌟 What you'll learn:

    • Why these conferences matter
    • How to pitch successful proposals
    • Smaller conferences to try
    • Budget-friendly tips for authors
    • Whether it’s worth presenting before you're published

    Patricia also shares what’s next for her writing journey!

    🔔 Don’t forget to like, subscribe, and leave a review.

    📩 Sign up for Kirsten’s newsletter to get the full transcript: https://kirstenwlarson.com

    Connect with Patricia Newman: https://www.patriciamnewman.com

    https://x.com/PatriciaNewman

    https://www.instagram.com/patricianewmanbooks/

    https://bsky.app/profile/patricianewman.bsky.social

    #NonfictionKidlit #PatriciaNewman #SharksUnhooked #KidlitPodcast #ChildrensAuthors #AuthorTips #LibraryConferences #TeacherConnections

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    47 mins
  • Radical Revision with Michelle Cusolito
    Jun 6 2025

    Revision Magic & the Art of Critique: Tips from Michelle Cusolito | Nonfiction Kidlit Craft Conversations

    🎧 Nonfiction Kidlit Craft Conversations is the podcast for children's authors who want to deepen their craft, hosted by Kirsten W. Larson, award-winning nonfiction picture book author and leading educator in children's nonfiction writing. In each episode, Kirsten interviews authors, illustrators, and editors about the craft and business of nonfiction picture books and beyond.

    In this episode, Kirsten speaks with Michelle Cusolito, author of two stunning new nonfiction picture books: "Jellyfish Scientist: Maude Delap and Her Mesmerizing Medusas," illustrated by Ellen Rooney and "In the World of Whales," illustrated by Sibert honoree Jessica Lanan. In this episode, Michelle helps authors by sharing her innovative approach to revision, including:

    • How she uses "magnetic poetry" techniques to reorganize text
    • Why working analog (away from the computer) can unlock creativity
    • The power of asking for specific feedback from critique partners
    • Her unique "placeholder" technique to avoid research rabbit holes
    • How structure decisions influence the entire storytelling process

    Michelle offers practical wisdom on finding fresh approaches to picture book biographies, knowing when your manuscript needs more work, and developing effective critique partnerships that truly improve your writing.

    Whether you're struggling with revision or looking to level up your critique group experience, this episode provides actionable techniques from a master of the craft.

    Links:

    Blog post about Michelle’s magnetic poetry approach: https://www.michellecusolito.com/blog/2019/7/31/magnetic-poetry-approach-to-writingrevising

    Liz Lerman’s Critical Response Process: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nFugLSJX_Nc

    5 Tips for Getting the Most Out of Your Critiques: https://kirstenwlarson.com/2025/05/28/five-tips-for-getting-the-most-out-of-your-critiques-inspired-by-my-convo-with-author-michelle-cusolito/

    Michelle’s website: https://www.michellecusolito.com

    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mcusolito/

    BlueSky: https://bsky.app/profile/mcusolito.bsky.social

    Eight Cousin’s Bookstore: https://www.eightcousins.com

    #NonfictionPictureBookWriting #ChildrensBookCraftPodcast #WritingForYoungReaders #STEMStorytellingForKids #ResearchTipsForChildrensAuthors #PictureBookStructureAndRevision #InterviewsWithKidlitCreators #RevisionTechniques #PictureBookBiography #NonfictionWritingCraft

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    38 mins
  • Ep. 10: Ensuring Cultural Authenticity with Carrie Tillotson and Mariana Llanos
    May 2 2025

    Join host Kirsten Larson as she takes you behind the scenes of the delightful picture book Alpacas Here, Alpacas There with author Carrie Tillotson and authenticity reader Mariana Llanos. In this insightful episode of the Nonfiction Kidlit Craft Conversations Podcast, discover the crucial role of cultural authenticity in children's nonfiction and the collaborative process that brings diverse stories to life.

    Learn about:

    • What authenticity readers do and why they're essential for culturally accurate children's books
    • How alpacas are viewed differently in the US versus their cultural significance in Peru
    • The research process including connecting with experts from Peru
    • The journey from first draft to book contact over a 7-year period
    • How illustration choices enhance cultural representation

    Whether you're a children's book author, illustrator, educator, or simply love picture books, this episode offers valuable insights into creating authentic, respectful, and engaging nonfiction for young readers.

    About the Book

    Alpacas Here, Alpacas There is a rhyming nonfiction picture book comparing alpacas in their native Peru and in North America, beautifully illustrated by Peruvian illustrator Elisa Chavarri and published by Beach Lane Books.

    Connect with Our Guests

    • Carrie Tillotson: https://carrietillotson.com
    • Mariana Llanos: https://www.marianallanos.com/
    • Order signed copies: Annie Bloom's Books in Portland, Oregon:https://annieblooms.com/

    About the Podcast

    The Nonfiction Kidlit Craft Conversations Podcast explores the art and business of children's nonfiction with today's leading authors and illustrators. Host Kirsten Larson, author of "Reimagining Your Nonfiction Picture Book," dives deep into research methods, writing techniques, and publishing insights.

    Subscribe to my newsletter for new episodes and to receive transcripts at https://kirstenwlarson.com!

    #ChildrensBooks #PictureBooks #KidLit #NonfictionForKids #CulturalAuthenticity #DiverseBooks #AlpacaBook #AuthorInterview #WritingForChildren #PictureBookCreation #Alpacas #PeruvianCulture #PublishingJourney #SensitivityReaders

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    27 mins
  • Nonfiction Kidlit Craft Conversations Episode 9: Reaching New Audiences with Barrinton Irving and Chana Stiefel
    Apr 18 2025

    Let's Fly: How Barrington Irving's Record-Breaking Flight Journey Became a Children's Book | Children's Nonfiction Craft

    Join host Kirsten Larson as she interviews Chana Stiefel and Captain Barrington Irving about their picture book "Let's Fly: Barrington Irving's Record-Breaking Flight Around the World." Discover the craft behind adapting Barrington's incredible aviation journey from a 50,000-word expedition log to middle grade to a 1,000-word picture book that puts young readers in the co-pilot seat.

    In this episode of the Nonfiction Kid Lit Craft Conversations podcast, learn about:

    • The process of transforming a middle-grade biography into an engaging picture book
    • How to balance technical aviation details with emotional storytelling for young readers
    • Finding the perfect narrative structure and "thread" for nonfiction picture books
    • The importance of mentorship in both aviation and children's storytelling
    • Behind-the-scenes insights into author-illustrator collaboration

    This conversation is essential listening for children's book authors, illustrators, educators, librarians, and anyone interested in aviation, STEM education, or the craft of writing compelling nonfiction for children.

    Links mentioned: The book: https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/709610/lets-fly-by-barrington-irving-and-chana-stiefel-illustrated-by-shamar-knight-justice/

    https://chanastiefel.com

    https://flyingclassroom.com

    https://www.bittschool.com

    Sign up for Kirsten's newsletter (to get the transcript) and to be notified about future episodes: https://kirstenwlarson.com

    Keywords: children's nonfiction, picture book writing, aviation for kids, STEM education, Barrington Irving, children's book craft, nonfiction picture books, writing process, first-person narrative, author collaboration, kidlit craft, aviation education, Guinness World Record, narrative structure, author interviews

    Tags #ChildrensBooks #NonfictionPictureBooks #AviationForKids #WritingCraft #STEMEducation #BarringtonIrving #KidLit #AuthorInterview #PictureBookCraft #WritingProcess #ChildrensAuthors #NonfictionWriting #GoodNightStories #ReadAloud #EducationalContent #ChildrensLiterature #BookCreation #PilotStories #DiverseBooks #AuthorCollaboration

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    32 mins