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Ninestone: Stacked to Scale

Ninestone: Stacked to Scale

By: Alex Polamero & Dr. Tom Tonkin
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Welcome to Ninestone: Stacked to Scale — the podcast for business builders who think smarter, move faster, and scale with intention. If you're a founder, marketer, or operator focused on real growth—not just hype—you're in the right place. Each episode, hosts Alex Polamero and Dr. Tom Tonkin break down the strategies behind sustainable scale: from marketing that connects, to sales journeys that convert, to systems that run without chaos behind the scenes. You'll hear candid conversations with modern builders—entrepreneurs, go-to-market leaders, and systems thinkers—who are stacking smart moves and sharing the lessons that got them there. Whether you're refining your first funnel or leading a seasoned growth team, Ninestone is your go-to playbook for scaling with clarity and confidence. New episodes drop monthly—subscribe and join our growing community!© 2025. Ninestone Partners. All Rights Reserved. Economics Leadership Management & Leadership Marketing Marketing & Sales
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  • E9: Seth Avergon: The Hidden Power of Challenging Assumptions to Unlock Business Growth
    Mar 17 2026

    Unlock exponential sales growth by challenging your assumptions and testing your business beliefs. In this episode, marketing strategist Seth Avergon, known for transforming companies into scalable powerhouses, reveals how a mindset shift can uncover overlooked opportunities and hidden leverage points. If you're tired of chasing quick fixes like social media or AI without understanding what truly drives your business, this conversation will be your breakthrough.

    Seth emphasizes the power of questioning everything, from your customer's needs to your internal capabilities. He shares how asking core questions—like "How did you come to that conclusion?"—can dismantle costly misjudgments and reveal crucial insights. By testing assumptions early on, you can unlock growth faster and more effectively, whether you're looking to turn a niche advantage into rapid acquisition or challenge current industry trends like AI.

    In a world obsessed with superficial solutions, true growth comes from a willingness to get uncomfortable and continuously test your ideas. Whether scaling a startup or refining an established enterprise, this episode provides the mental toolkit to unlock sustainable success. Ready to rethink your approach? Connect with Seth at AvragonMarketing.com or on LinkedIn—he's the only Seth Avergon.

    Topics Discussed:

    • Why Most Growth Efforts Fail
    • The Role of Curiosity in Revenue Streams
    • Navigating Client Resistance
    • Internal Interviews and Customer Feedback
    • Practical Frameworks for Testing Ideas

    Chapters

    • Unlock Sales and Growth Strategies – 00:56
    • Understanding Client Assumptions and Assertions – 03:49
    • The Importance of Coachability in Clients – 06:50
    • Challenging Assumptions for Scalability – 09:49
    • Testing Assumptions to Unlock Growth – 12:54
    • The Buyer's Journey and Internal Insights – 15:44
    • Finding Growth in Niche Focus – 20:59
    • Challenging Client Assumptions – 22:32
    • The Importance of Coachability – 25:36
    • Navigating Stakeholder Opinions – 28:28
    • AI: An Accelerator or a Downfall? – 30:15
    • The Role of Consultants in the Age of AI – 32:58
    • Unlocking Growth Through Uncomfortable Conversations – 35:54

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    Connect with Seth Avergon:

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    40 mins
  • E8: Dinesh Mohangupta: Maximizing Efficiency: Understanding Cost Structures in Business
    Feb 24 2026

    In this insightful episode of "Stacked to Scale," we welcome Dinesh, a seasoned expert in cost optimization, to discuss the critical role of managing expenses for business growth and sustainability. Dinesh shares his unique approach to helping businesses, from small startups to large corporations, optimize their costs without compromising on quality or service. By leveraging his extensive experience and proprietary software, Dinesh reveals how companies can uncover hidden savings and reinvest them into strategic growth initiatives.

    Dinesh delves into real-world examples, illustrating how businesses across various industries have successfully reduced their expenses. From telecom and waste management to uniform rentals and facility supplies, he explains the common areas where companies often overspend and how his firm, Schooley Mitchell, helps clients recover lost funds. Dinesh emphasizes the importance of maintaining vendor relationships while ensuring that contracts are up-to-date and reflect the best possible terms for the business.

    As the conversation unfolds, Dr. Tom Tonkin and Dinesh explore the broader implications of cost optimization on business valuation and growth. They discuss the concept of "found money" and how reallocating these savings can significantly enhance a company's market position. The episode concludes with practical advice for business owners and leaders on how to approach cost optimization as a strategic, ongoing process rather than a one-time task.

    Topics Discussed:

    • Importance of cost management for business growth
    • Overview of Dinesh's approach and expertise
    • Case study on telecom expense reduction
    • Strategies for negotiating better vendor contracts
    • Real-world examples of cost savings in waste management
    • Insights into optimizing uniform rental expenses
    • The concept of "found money" and its impact
    • Enhancing business valuation through cost savings
    • Implementing cost optimization as an ongoing strategy
    • Maintaining vendor relationships while optimizing costs

    Chapters

    • Introduction to Cost Optimization - 00:58
    • Understanding the Role of Cost Optimization - 04:00
    • Industry-Specific Cost Strategies - 7:07
    • The Importance of Vendor Relationships - 9:50
    • Real-World Examples of Cost Savings - 12:59
    • The Impact of Cost Optimization on Business Growth - 16:01
    • Reallocating Resources for Maximum Efficiency - 19:04
    • Cost Cutting vs. Strategic Growth - 23:22
    • Change Management in Cost Optimization - 27:51
    • Industries and Areas of Savings - 30:28
    • Understanding Minimum Thresholds for Savings - 33:09
    • The Importance of Continuous Cost Optimization - 34:04
    • Maximizing Business Value through Cost Management - 36:28

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    42 mins
  • E7: Marc Rosenkoetter: Leadership and Innovation: Driving Change in Professional Services
    Jan 20 2026

    The podcast episode features an engaging conversation with Marc Rosenkoetter, Dr. Tom Tonkin, and the Alex Polamero, focusing on the intricacies of scaling professional services firms. Marc shares his unique journey from entrepreneurship to leading a division at Aprio, a top 100 U.S. accounting firm, where he successfully navigated the challenges of rapid growth. The discussion delves into the importance of a growth mindset, the necessity of effective delegation, and the implementation of systems and processes to manage capacity and knowledge transfer within organizations.

    Throughout the episode, Marc emphasizes the significance of balancing autonomy with accountability, drawing from his experiences in both entrepreneurial and corporate environments. He highlights the critical role of capacity management in professional services, explaining how firms must visualize and plan for future demand to avoid burnout or underutilization of resources. The conversation also touches on the challenges of change management, particularly in integrating new systems and processes that support scalability without compromising the firm's culture.

    Listeners are treated to insights on how to foster a growth mindset within their teams, encouraging them to think beyond immediate tasks and consider long-term strategic goals. Marc's anecdotes and practical advice provide valuable lessons for leaders in any industry looking to scale their operations effectively. The episode concludes with a reflection on the evolving role of technology and AI in business, underscoring the need for human thinkers to drive innovation and strategic decision-making.

    Topics Included:

    • Scaling professional services firms
    • Growth mindset and delegation
    • Capacity management and knowledge transfer
    • Change management and process integration
    • Balancing autonomy with accountability
    • The role of technology and AI in business

    Connect with Ninestone Partners:

    Website

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    Connect with Mark Rosenkoetter:

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    49 mins
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