The Peacock documentary did something that nothing else in this case has been able to do — it showed us the human wreckage inside Rex Heuermann's own home.

Not the crime scenes. Not the evidence. The people. Asa Ellerup, the ex-wife who heard her husband confess to eight murders and still believes he loved her. Victoria Heuermann, the daughter who asked her father if he ever thought about her while killing women in their basement and was told no. And Rex himself — the man who described a meticulous four-day kill cycle, who timed body dumps with a stopwatch, who told a therapist he can't connect the person in the crime scene photos to himself, and who John Douglas says is almost certainly hiding more victims. Each of these three people is processing the same truth from a completely different psychological position. Asa can't let go. Victoria is trying to forgive. And Rex is still performing — still curating, still controlling how the world receives his story.

Psychotherapist Shavaun Scott joins me for a three-part interview series that goes inside each of these minds. Part one covers Asa — the trauma history, the constructed reality, the impossible attachment. Part two covers Victoria — the identity destruction, the rewritten memories, the cost of forgiveness. Part three covers Rex — the adolescent origins, the ritualized killing, and whether his cooperation with the FBI is insight or narcissism. This series is the most thorough psychological examination of the Heuermann family in true crime. Period.

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Rex Heuermann sits in his cell at Suffolk County Correctional Facility and looks at crime scene photos of the eight women he killed. He studies the dump sites. He looks at what was done to the bodies. And then he says something that should make every person following this case sit up straight — he says he can't connect the person who did those things to himself. He tries. He looks at the photos and tries to bridge the gap between the man who dismembered women in his basement and the man sitting in the cell. And he says he can't do it. The two worlds don't merge. That claim — coming from a man who timed his body dumps with a stopwatch, who built a four-day ritual around each killing, who got his disposal time down from two minutes to thirty-seven seconds — raises a question that sits at the center of this entire case. Is he telling the truth? Is Rex Heuermann genuinely unable to connect his two selves?

Or is this one more performance from a man who John Douglas called a malignant narcissistic sadistic psychopath — a man whose narcissism is so total that even in confession, he's still curating how the world sees him? The documentary also revealed that Rex agreed to cooperate with the FBI's behavioral analysis unit as part of his plea deal.

Psychotherapist Shavaun Scott joins me to examine what the documentary exposed about Rex Heuermann's mind — whether his claimed dissociation is real, what the ritualized killing pattern reveals about his psychology, and whether cooperation with the FBI is a sign of genuine self-examination or another form of narcissistic control from behind bars.

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He's a loving dad and a serial killer.

Victoria Heuermann said those words after sitting across from her father in a jailhouse room and hearing him confess to murdering eight women — including at least seven inside the home where she grew up. She didn't say it with sarcasm. She didn't say it with rage. She said it like someone trying to hold two truths that shouldn't be able to exist inside the same person — because for Victoria, they have to. The Rex she knew coached her through life. Took care of the family. Was the person she called when she needed something. That Rex was real to her. The Rex who strangled women and dismembered them in the basement while she played video games ten feet away — that Rex is also real. And she has to live with both of them for the rest of her life. The Peacock documentary didn't just show Victoria accepting her father's guilt. It showed the psychological cost of that acceptance. Depression. Anger. A self-worth that's been destroyed. And a question that keeps surfacing — if my father is a monster, what does that make me?

Psychotherapist Shavaun Scott joins me to analyze Victoria Heuermann's psychological landscape — whether holding both versions of her father is genuine coping or a mirror of his own compartmentalization, what the immediate forgiveness tells us about where she actually is in the grief process, and how a person begins to rebuild an identity when the person who shaped it turns out to be a serial killer. Victoria said nobody thinks about the daughter. This conversation proves her wrong.

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