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Moving Medicine Podcast

Moving Medicine Podcast

By: Zoe Taylor
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 The Moving Medicine Podcast is a trusted resource for physicians and medical families navigating one of the most significant transitions of their careers: relocation. Hosted by Zoe Taylor, Founder of Moving Medicine Partners, the podcast explores what medical families truly need to know before they move—beyond contracts and compensation. Each episode offers insight into hospital culture, city lifestyles, real estate considerations, cost of living, and the emotional realities of uprooting a family. Through expert interviews, real relocation stories, and solo guidance episodes, the show reduces overwhelm and decision fatigue by delivering clear, honest, and experience-based perspectives. Whether you’re preparing for residency, fellowship, or an attending role—or reassessing lifestyle and burnout—the Moving Medicine Podcast helps families make confident, informed decisions about where (and how) to build their next chapter.©2025 Moving Medicine Partners Career Success Economics Hygiene & Healthy Living Physical Illness & Disease Social Sciences Travel Writing & Commentary
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  • Reclaiming Physician Autonomy: The Future of Career Navigation with Tesselate – Ep9

    Reclaiming Physician Autonomy: The Future of Career Navigation with Tesselate – Ep9
    Mar 2 2026
    This episode is supported by Bob at Truist, who works closely with physicians and medical families navigating big financial decisions—especially around relocation, home buying, and long-term planning. If you’re making a move, stepping into a new role, or just want clarity around how your money fits into your life, Bob brings a calm, strategic approach that’s built for people with complex careers. You can connect directly with Bob— http://www.truist.com/bob.hall — Physicians shouldn’t be settling. Paul shares how his first company (Winow) revealed deep structural issues in physician recruiting — a system driven by speed, vacancy costs, and marketing pitches instead of alignment and transparency That realization led to the creation of Tesselate, a physician-first career navigation platform designed to: Provide transparency into real clinical practice dataProtect physician anonymity during explorationSurface alignment beyond salary and geographyOffer concierge-style advocacy during negotiation Dr. Jeff Bettag adds the resident perspective — highlighting how physicians are trained extensively in medicine but rarely in contract structure, compensation models, or long-term career strategy Together, the conversation covers: Why compensation alone leads to dissatisfactionThe difference between burnout and moral injuryHow “calling” can paradoxically trap physicians in poor environmentsWhy many physicians feel blind during job selectionAnd how early career guidance can prevent relocation regret What You’ll Learn in This Episode Why post-training job tenure has dropped from 6 years to ~2 yearsThe concept of misalignment vs. burnoutHow moral injury differs from exhaustionWhy physicians often lack career negotiation trainingThe hidden data behind CPT, ICD-10, and procedural distributionHow anonymity can protect physicians during job explorationWhat it means to treat career search like talent representationWhy lifestyle alignment matters as much as incomeHow early exposure (even in med school) can shape better decisions About the Guests Paul Vernich Founder & CEO of Tesselate Paul previously founded Winow, an AI-driven physician recruiting company that exposed the systemic inefficiencies in healthcare hiring. After its acquisition by IA Healthcare in 2023, he launched Tesselate with a new mission: To empower physicians directly — not recruiters or health systems — by leveling the informational playing field. Tesselate operates as a physician-first, privacy-protected career navigation platform designed to prevent settling and improve alignment across compensation, culture, autonomy, and clinical scope. 🌐 Website: https://t8health.com Dr. Jeff Bettag Neurology Resident | Vanderbilt University Medical Center Physician Advisor, Tesselate Dr. Jeff Bettag is a first-year neurology resident who joined Tesselate after witnessing firsthand the confusion, fear, and lack of transparency surrounding physician job selection He advocates for restoring physician autonomy, educating residents earlier in training about career realities, and reframing burnout as a systems misalignment issue. (Note: Views expressed are his own.) About the Show The Moving Medicine Podcast is a space for physicians and physician spouses navigating relocation—not as a transaction, but as a life transition. Hosted by Zoe Taylor, founder of Moving Medicine Partners, the show centers the human side of medical moves and offers clarity, grounding, and shared understanding for families at every stage of the journey. Connect & Follow 🌐 Website: https://movingmedicinepartners.com/ 📸 Instagram: @movingmedicinepartners 📘 Facebook: Moving Medicine Partners 💼 LinkedIn: Moving Medicine Partners ✉️ Email: hello@movingmedicinepartners.com About the Host Zoe Taylor is the founder of Moving Medicine Partners and someone who has sat at that kitchen table herself. Through her work supporting medical families across the country, Zoe has seen the unseen labor of relocation up close—and built this podcast to make sure no one has to navigate it feeling invisible, rushed, or alone. Learn more…
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    44 mins
  • Relocating to Des Moines as a Physician: What Medical Families Don’t Expect with Andrea Quann - Ep8

    Relocating to Des Moines as a Physician: What Medical Families Don’t Expect with Andrea Quann - Ep8
    Feb 23 2026
    This episode is supported by Bob at Truist, who works closely with physicians and medical families navigating big financial decisions—especially around relocation, home buying, and long-term planning. If you’re making a move, stepping into a new role, or just want clarity around how your money fits into your life, Bob brings a calm, strategic approach that’s built for people with complex careers. You can connect directly with Bob— http://www.truist.com/bob.hall —- Des Moines isn’t flashy — but it offers something many high-demand cities don’t: accessibility, manageable cost of living, strong physician demand, and an easy lifestyle. Andrea Quann is married to a general surgeon, and since medical school they’ve relocated multiple times — Iowa City, Des Moines (residency), Dubuque, Wilmington, NC, and back again. They’ve rented, built, bought land, sold quickly, and learned hard financial lessons along the way. Now a licensed real estate agent with Re/Max Precision, Andrea specializes in helping physician families relocate with clarity — especially when time is limited and stakes are high. In this episode, Andrea shares: What it’s really like moving cross-country twice in under a yearWhy physicians should think twice before rushing into a home purchaseLessons learned from buying a spec home and land during attending yearsThe reality of Des Moines’ market (including surprising million-dollar inventory)Why Midwest cities are often more insulated from national real estate swingsWhat makes Des Moines “easy” to live inHow to build community as a physician spouseWhy listening matters more than selling in real estate This conversation blends practical relocation advice with honest reflections on marriage, medical call schedules, raising kids through residency, and choosing lifestyle alignment over hype. What You’ll Learn in This Episode Why Des Moines can feel like a “hidden gem” for physiciansAverage home prices in Des Moines (around $330K)What $1M+ inventory currently looks like in this marketHow Midwest markets differ from coastal real estate cyclesCommute realities (20 minutes almost anywhere)The pros and cons of buying during early attending yearsWhy not rushing a purchase can be strategicThe emotional load physician spouses carry during relocationHow to evaluate a city beyond compensation aloneThe importance of researching and interviewing real estate agents About the Guest Andrea Quann is a licensed real estate agent with Re/Max Precision based in Des Moines, Iowa. She is married to a general surgeon and has personally navigated medical school, residency, attending transitions, private practice shifts, and cross-country moves. Before becoming a realtor, Andrea worked in healthcare marketing and web design for a large health system, collaborating closely with residency and fellowship programs. Those experiences — combined with handling four relocations of her own — shaped her mission: To make relocation easier and far less stressful for doctors and their families, especially when time is limited and the stakes are high. Connect with Andrea 📍 Des Moines, Iowa 📧 andrea.quann@precisiondsm.com 📞 515-419-1494 🌐 http://andreaquannrealtor.com 📸 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/andreaquannrealtor/ 💼 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrea-quann-95b75430a/ About the Show The Moving Medicine Podcast is a space for physicians and physician spouses navigating relocation—not as a transaction, but as a life transition. Hosted by Zoe Taylor, founder of Moving Medicine Partners, the show centers the human side of medical moves and offers clarity, grounding, and shared understanding for families at every stage of the journey. Connect & Follow 🌐 Website: https://movingmedicinepartners.com/ 📸 Instagram: @movingmedicinepartners 📘 Facebook: Moving Medicine Partners 💼 LinkedIn: Moving Medicine Partners ✉️ Email: hello@movingmedicinepartners.com About the Host Zoe Taylor is the founder of Moving Medicine Partners and someone who has sat at that kitchen table herself. Through her work supporting medical families across the country, Zoe has seen the unseen labor of relocation up close—and built this podcast to make sure no one has to navigate it feeling invisible, rushed, or alone. Learn more…
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    49 mins
  • Why Milwaukee Is a Hidden Gem for Physicians | Real Life as a Med Spouse & Realtor with Traci Kurtin - Ep7

    Why Milwaukee Is a Hidden Gem for Physicians | Real Life as a Med Spouse & Realtor with Traci Kurtin - Ep7
    Feb 16 2026
    This episode is supported by Bob at Truist, who works closely with physicians and medical families navigating big financial decisions—especially around relocation, home buying, and long-term planning.If you’re making a move, stepping into a new role, or just want clarity around how your money fits into your life, Bob brings a calm, strategic approach that’s built for people with complex careers.You can connect directly with Bob— http://www.truist.com/bob.hall—-Milwaukee may not be flashy — but it offers something many high-demand cities don’t: stability, affordability, strong physician reimbursement, and a high quality of life.Traci Kurtin, a longtime Milwaukee resident and wife of a joint replacement orthopedic surgeon, shares her family’s full-circle journey — from medical school and residency at the Medical College of Wisconsin, to fellowship in Utah, private practice in Arizona, and ultimately returning to Milwaukee to put down permanent roots.Traci opens up about:Growing up in Tucson and adjusting to Midwest winters (including her convertible-in-black-ice story)What makes Milwaukee surprisingly vibrant — beaches, walkability, food, arts, and access to ChicagoWhy cost of living matters more than just salary when evaluating a physician contractHow real estate decisions affect emotional stability and family lifeThe invisible load physician spouses carry during training and relocationWhy choosing the right community matters just as much as choosing the right houseThis conversation blends practical relocation insight with honest reflections on marriage, career transitions, motherhood, and finding fulfillment beyond medicine.What You’ll Learn in This EpisodeWhy Milwaukee is often called the “Third Coast”Average home price ranges in Milwaukee and surrounding suburbsWhat winters are actually like (and whether you need AWD)Public transportation and commuting options — including Chicago accessThe difference between measurable contract perks and lifestyle fitHow HGTV culture has impacted home buying decisionsWhy physician families should evaluate intangibles before relocatingWhat makes Wisconsin especially physician-friendly (malpractice climate + reimbursement)How to build community as a physician spouseWhy empathy and big-picture thinking matter in relocation decisionsAbout the GuestTraci Kurtin is a licensed real estate agent with Keller Williams based in Milwaukee, WisconsinShe is married to a joint replacement orthopedic surgeon and has personally experienced every stage of the medical journey — from medical school and residency to fellowship, private practice, and employed physician life.After spending years as a stay-at-home mom raising four children and volunteering deeply in her community, Traci returned to the workforce and found her calling in real estate in 2012. Her mission is simple:Connecting people to their homes and communities.She specializes in helping physician families navigate relocation with clarity, balance, and long-term lifestyle alignment — not just quick transactions.Connect with Traci📍 Milwaukee, Wisconsin📧 tracikurtin@kw.com📞 262-957-0388🌐 https://kurtin-realty.com📸 Instagram: @kurtin.ryba.groupAbout the ShowThe Moving Medicine Podcast is a space for physicians and physician spouses navigating relocation—not as a transaction, but as a life transition. Hosted by Zoe Taylor, founder of Moving Medicine Partners, the show centers the human side of medical moves and offers clarity, grounding, and shared understanding for families at every stage of the journey.Connect & Follow🌐 Website: https://movingmedicinepartners.com/📸 Instagram: @movingmedicinepartners📘 Facebook: Moving Medicine Partners💼 LinkedIn: Moving Medicine Partners✉️ Email: hello@movingmedicinepartners.comAbout the HostZoe Taylor is the founder of Moving Medicine Partners and someone who has sat at that kitchen table herself. Through her work supporting medical families across the country, Zoe has seen the unseen labor of relocation up close—and built this podcast to make sure no one has to navigate it feeling invisible, rushed, or alone. Learn more…
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    36 mins
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