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As we age, maintaining muscle power—not just strength—is key to staying independent, quick, and injury-free. In this episode, Katy and Jeannette explain the difference between strength and power, and why adding speed or intensity to the movements you're already doing—like walking, climbing stairs, or getting up from a chair—can make all the difference. From stair climbing to pickleball to plyometrics, learn practical ways to build power and maintain independence for years to come.

They share practical ways to train power with (or without) an overhaul to your routine, and Katy chats with masters athlete and Peluva co-founder Brad Kearns about maintaining explosive strength after 60. Hear how Brad shifted from endurance to high jump, why minimalist shoes can support aging feet, and how smarter movement helps you age better.

CHAPTERS
00:02:15 - Power - the definitions

00:06:10 - The Dynamic Collective

00:12:05 - Why Power is Important as You Get Older

00:21:15 - Listener Question about Plyometrics brought to you by Smart Playrooms

00:31:30 - Interview with power athlete Brad Kearns of Peluva Footwear

BOOKS & RESEARCH MENTIONED

My Perfect Movement Plan by Katy Bowman
Whole Body Barefoot by Katy Bowman
ACSM’s Health & Fitness Journal Special Edition on Power

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Dynamic Aging Retreat Oct 3-5 2025

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Katy Bowman and Jeannette Loram dig into the science—and the hype—around so-called “exercise pills.” They unpack what these drugs do at the molecular level, what they can—and can’t—mimic about exercise, and who might benefit—from elite athletes to people with disabilities or chronic illness.

The conversation goes beyond physiology into questions of culture, psychology, and even the future of sport—where performance-enhancing technologies are blurring the lines between natural and engineered human potential.

CHAPTERS

0:03:12 The Dynamic Collective

0:04:28 – How Do Exercise Pills Work?

0:06:50 – Exercise Pills, Skeletal Muscle targets and ‘Enhanced’ Sport Performance

0:12:30 – Who Might Benefit from Exercise Pills?
0:14:08 – Why Pills Can’t Replace All The Effects of Exercise
0:24:26 – Can Exercise Pills Close the Health Gap? And Why Are We Failing To Exercise Enough?
0:34:26 – Beyond Blood Panels: What Pills Miss About Movement
0:36:56 – Listener Question brought to you by Venn Design

RESEARCH MENTIONED

Mimicking Exercise: What Matters Most and Where To Next? Hawley et al (2021)
Exercise pills for cardiometabolic health cannot mimic the exercise milieu Plaza-Florido et al (2025)

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Dynamic Aging Retreat Oct 3-5 2025

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Katy Bowman and Jeannette Loram explore skin strength, focusing on what a callus is, how calluses form on the hands and feet, and how it affects circulation. They also discuss the pros and cons of calluses, comparing them to a weight belt for your skin—reinforcing, protecting, and ultimately enabling your body to do more.

They share personal stories—from rowing and kayaking to gardening—highlighting how it's often skin, not muscles, that limits activity. Katy also chats with Karri Bowen-Poole, founder of Smart Playrooms, about designing home spaces that promote hanging, build skin strength, and support kids’ physical and cognitive development. They cover equipment ideas, dynamic home design tips, and draw inspiration from Ninja Warrior athletes.

CHAPTERS

00:04:30 - The Dynamic Collective

00:08:20 - What is a Callus? And the Listener Question on calluses & circulation brought to you by Sweet Skins

00:22:30 - Updated insights about the Callus, skin strength and its relationship to whole-body movement

00:35:25 - Skin Tissue and Thoughtful Progression

00:42:00 - Interview with Karri Bowen-Poole, founder of Smart Playrooms

BOOKS & RESEARCH PAPERS

Move Your DNA by Katy Bowman
Simple Steps to Foot Pain Relief by Katy Bowman
Callus Formation by Kim et al (2010)
Blood Flow In The Skin in relation to temperature and pressure by J Petrofsky (2012)
Foot Callus and Tactile Sensitivity by Holowka et al (2019) - Daniel Lieberman group

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Smart Playrooms, design and products to keep you and your kids engaged and active at home, take 10% off monkey bars, rock wall panels and holds with code DNA10
Earth Runners, minimalist sandals that mimic being truly barefoot through their grounding technology, take 10% off with code DNA10
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