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Most Podern Podcast

Most Podern Podcast

By: Minkoo Kang Libo Li and Alex Yuen
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The podcast about the Built Environment, with the minds shaping it, for the people living in it. Why does the built environment feel broken — and what would it take to fix it? Most Podern is about how the built world really works. We dig into the systems shaping architecture, urbanism, housing, and public spaces, and talk with the people actually building change: architects, planners, developers, and urban thinkers.Minkoo Kang, Libo Li, and Alex Yuen Art
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  • America can't Build. Can Modular Construction be the Answer?
    Nov 26 2025

    How do we build faster, smarter, and more affordably in a world running out of patience and running short on skilled labor? Tom Hardiman, Executive Director of the Modular Building Institute, joins Alex Yuen and Libo Li to explain how modular construction can reshape the built environment. From cutting construction timelines in half to reducing waste and expanding access to housing, Tom shows why modular is not a trend but a practical tool for a more sustainable, efficient, and inclusive future. The conversation unpacks the realities behind factory based building, the politics that slow adoption, and how modular can help cities facing affordability and capacity challenges.

    Subscribe to Most Podern on:

    Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/3zYvX2lRZOpHcZW41WGVrpApple Podcasts - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/most-podern-podcast/id1725756164Youtube - https://www.youtube.com/@MostPodernInstagram - https://www.instagram.com/most.podernLinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/company/most-podern

    Keywords

    modular construction, prefab housing, offsite construction, Modular Building Institute, MBI, Tom Hardiman, affordable housing solutions, housing crisis, construction technology, manufacturing in construction, sustainable building, prefabricated buildings, industrialized construction, factory-built homes, housing innovation, construction efficiency, future of construction, how to build faster, Most Podern podcast

    Chapters

    00:00 Introduction to Modular Construction

    00:53 Defining Modular Construction

    02:02 Benefits of Modular Construction

    04:59 The Ecosystem of Modular Construction

    06:51 Coordination in Modular Projects

    08:20 Cost Considerations in Modular Construction

    09:53 The Importance of Time in Construction

    11:30 Architects and Modular Construction

    12:53 Successful Modular Projects

    14:38 Addressing Design Concerns in Modular Construction

    17:32 Standardization vs. Customization

    19:45 Regulatory Challenges in Modular Construction

    20:50 Education and Resources for Modular Construction

    21:13 The Role of Education in Modular Construction

    24:27 Attracting Young Talent to Modular Construction

    28:32 Barriers to Adoption of Modular Construction

    30:56 Navigating Politics and Labor Relations

    34:51 Integrating Traditional and Modular Construction

    37:52 The Future of Modular Construction

    40:12 Upcoming Events and Community Engagement

    Links

    Tom Hardimanlinkedin.com/in/tomhardiman

    Modular Building Institute (MBI)

    https://www.modular.org/

    World of Modular Conference

    https://www.modular.org/wom/

    MBI Research and Resources

    https://www.modular.org/resources/

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    46 mins
  • Why Affordable Housing Isn’t Affordable
    Nov 11 2025

    Why does building “affordable” housing cost so much in the built environment? From land prices to loan rates, construction inflation to endless permitting, Alex and Libo break down the true costs of creating homes and why the system often works against the very people it is meant to help. They unpack how financing, regulation, and risk collide, what makes America’s housing model unique, and what simple reforms could unlock more livable and affordable cities for everyone.

    Subscribe to Most Podern on:

    Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/3zYvX2lRZOpHcZW41WGVrpApple Podcasts - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/most-podern-podcast/id1725756164Youtube - https://www.youtube.com/@MostPodernInstagram - https://www.instagram.com/most.podernLinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/company/most-podern

    Keywords

    affordable housing crisis, built environment, housing policy, real estate development, construction costs, architecture, urban design, cities, zoning reform, housing finance, interest rates, pro forma explained

    Chapters

    00:00 Understanding Affordable Housing Costs02:29 The Role of Pro Forma in Housing Development05:49 Financing Affordable Housing Projects09:58 Impact of Rising Costs on Housing Development16:18 Government's Role in Affordable Housing20:29 Streamlining the Permitting Process23:13 Changing Perspectives on Housing Development

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    26 mins
  • Design School for The Displaced - With Scott Key
    Nov 4 2025

    What happens when you run an architecture studio inside a refugee settlement — and let refugees lead it?

    Scott Key (founder/CEO of Every Shelter) is back to break down how a 10-week “design school” in Nakivale turned buzzwords like “co-creation” into actual, working solutions — cow-dung bricks that survive soaking, shelter-wide mosquito netting, and quality water that families can afford.

    Why it matters:

    Refugees are displaced for 20+ years — which means they need permanent, local, extremely affordable building solutions. This episode shows how design unlocks what’s already on the ground: clay, ag waste, community trust, and good design.

    LinksDonate to Support Every Shelter’s WorkEvery Shelter

    Our Last Episode with Scott

    Youtube*:* https://youtu.be/60d198yrKcY?feature=shared

    Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/episode/3iVzLi6aF5SV1K7WaVayT4?si=P2-DFU3_QNKP9c_XFxUEFQ

    Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/designing-dignity-how-scott-key-and-every-shelter-are/id1725756164?i=1000702692254

    Chapters

    00:00 Running an Architecture Studio in a Refugee Camp02:53 Pitching the Idea to Students and Stakeholders02:53 Introduction to the Program and Partnerships05:13 Setting the Stage: The First Day of Design School07:54 Curriculum and Transformation: Learning by Doing10:20 Innovative Projects: Cow Poop and Mud Bricks12:41 Community Engagement: Addressing Local Needs15:30 Water Quality Solutions: BioSand Filters18:18 Empowerment through Entrepreneurship: Offer Letters and Business Models20:39 Feedback and Iteration: Learning from the Community22:51 The Role of Donors and Future Directions25:08 Looking Ahead: Optimism for Human Connection

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    39 mins
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