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More Health, Less Healthcare

More Health, Less Healthcare

By: Peter Boland PhD
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Are you ready to rethink what health really means—and what it takes for us to achieve it? Welcome to the “More Health. Less Healthcare” Podcast, your front-row seat to a revolution in American healthcare, inspired by the game-changing book by Peter Boland.

Healthcare doesn’t have to be defined by endless bills, mounting debt, and a system that prioritizes profits over people. What if there’s a better way that means more health for everyone, fewer unnecessary costs, and a renewed sense of fairness in how care is delivered?

The “More Health. Less Healthcare” podcast takes you inside the heart of a growing movement: one that values equity, transparency, collaboration, and, above all, real outcomes for real people. Hosted by thought leaders committed to making a difference, each episode starts with a bold question: Are we ready to do the right thing, for the right reasons, at the right price?

Drawing from over 100 real-life case examples and interviews, this podcast isn’t just another critique of what’s broken. It’s your practical playbook for solutions that work—proof of concept that eradicating health disparities and cutting out waste can lead to healthier communities, a stronger economy, and a more ethical society.

Learn how the hidden cost of inequity in American healthcare is draining hundreds of billions of dollars from our economy every year, and how millions of Americans endure the crushing burden of medical debt. Discover why up to a third of all healthcare spending in the U.S.—a staggering $1.4 trillion each year—has no benefit for patients and only adds to the harm. The “More Health. Less Healthcare” podcast uncovers these hard truths and turns them into a call for accountability and courage.

We face a crucial choice: keep overspending on sickness care or rebalance our priorities to invest in real health creation. COVID-19 revealed the glaring gaps in our system and the disproportionate impact on minority communities, bringing discrimination and broken incentives to the forefront. The podcast tackles these issues head-on, with stories and strategies from those leading the way on public health, end-to-end care coordination, and the rebuilding of trust in our healthcare institutions.

Why do traditional healthcare financing models fail us? How can we redirect wasted resources to programs that create health? What can individuals, practitioners, and policymakers do right now to drive systemic change, eliminate unnecessary care, and refocus on community-based solutions?

Each episode is a masterclass in what it means to be accountable for the health of our communities. We draw on the wisdom of healthcare’s past, rooted in Hippocrates’ timeless principle—first do no harm, then try to prevent it—and update it for the 21st century. Our guests bring you groundbreaking ideas and proven methods to advance equity, commit to health creation, and embrace transparency and fairness as the guiding values of a new era.

Don’t miss the conversations that matter from how to slash 26-46% of healthcare waste, to making public health programs robust statewide and nationwide, to amplifying voices that have turned health equity from an ideal into a reality.

Whether you’re a patient, a clinician, a policymaker, or someone who simply cares about the future of health in America, “More Health. Less Healthcare” is your go-to resource for hope, honest dialogue, and practical steps toward a fairer, healthier tomorrow. Subscribe now and join the national conversation about how we value health, the urgent reforms we need, and how—with the right leadership and commitment—we can all experience more health and less healthcare.

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Episodes
  • Whole Person Care in Action: Inside Nationwide Children’s Healthy Neighborhoods, Healthy Families Initiative

    Whole Person Care in Action: Inside Nationwide Children’s Healthy Neighborhoods, Healthy Families Initiative
    Dec 3 2025

    We’re back with an inspiring episode you won’t want to miss! This week, Peter Boland sits down with Nick Jones, Vice President of Community Wellness at Nationwide Children’s Hospital in Columbus, for a deep dive into how housing and health are more connected than you think.


    5 Keys You’ll Learn in This Episode:

    1. Why Housing is Healthcare: Discover why affordable housing is truly a foundational strategy for improving population health—right from the experts making it happen.
    2. The 5-Pronged Approach: Get the inside scoop on Nationwide Children’s “Healthy Neighborhoods, Healthy Families” initiative and its five core areas: housing, economic development, wellness, education, and community enrichment.
    3. How to Build a Capital Stack: Learn what it takes to fund big-impact affordable housing—and how assembling the right partners (and a lot of trust) makes it possible.
    4. Whole-Person, Whole-Family Care: See how wraparound services and “no wrong door” entry points are changing outcomes for families—keeping kids healthy at home, at school, and in their neighborhoods.
    5. Measuring Real Results: Hear about the concrete outcomes this initiative has achieved, including higher graduation rates, increased kindergarten readiness, and millions returned to the community through tax prep assistance.


    Fun Fact from the Episode: Did you know that Nationwide Children’s Hospital has helped return over $5 million to the local community just through its free tax preparation program? Talk about putting money where their mission is!


    Wrapping Up This episode is packed with actionable insights if you want to help communities thrive, drive lasting change, or just get inspired by what’s possible when hospitals go “all in” on health equity. Peter Bolland and Nick Jones make a fantastic team, sharing lessons and stories that will keep you energized about your own work!


    Call to Action Don’t miss out—tune in to this episode and share it with a friend who cares about healthier futures. And if you’re feeling inspired, let us know what community innovation you’d like to hear about next!

    Listen now and keep making good trouble!


    P.S. If this episode sparked questions or ideas, hit reply—we love hearing from you
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    31 mins
  • Unlocking Community Power: The Role of Pathways Community HUBs and Community Health Workers in Holistic Care

    Unlocking Community Power: The Role of Pathways Community HUBs and Community Health Workers in Holistic Care
    Nov 26 2025

    Today's Guest is Jan Ruma, Senior Advisor at the Pathways Community HUB Institute, is a leader in community health innovation and experienced at facilitating and resourcing outcome-oriented community partnerships to measurably improve health status. Jan has firsthand experience implementing and sustaining community care hubs and contracting with payers utilizing the Pathways Community HUB Institute® Model (PCHI® Model). Jan provides guidance on all aspects of developing, implementing, and sustaining a community care hub, including partnership, fund, and community resource development; governance; payer contracting; addressing health related social needs; defining populations of focus; operations; and the value proposition.



    Discover how the Pathways Community Help Institute is transforming health equity with a practical, outcomes-driven approach. Learn the essential elements that make the Pathways model a powerful tool for addressing complex health and social needs in communities.

    • What the Pathways model is and how it simplifies access to health and social services
    • The role of community health workers (CHWs) and why they're central to success
    • How risk factors and pathways are tracked and measured for real results
    • The funding, structure, and technology needed to launch a successful community hub
    • The tangible return on investment (ROI) and long-term impact seen from this model
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    31 mins
  • Why We Need to Invest More in Health and Less in Healthcare

    Why We Need to Invest More in Health and Less in Healthcare
    Nov 18 2025

    Discover the latest episode of More Health, Less Healthcare with Peter Boland—a thought-provoking journey into the urgent distinction between health and healthcare. In this episode, Peter challenges long-held assumptions by spotlighting the disproportionate investment in sickness care versus health promotion, urging a cultural shift toward prevention and wellness.

    Key highlights include:

    • A candid look at the cultural and financial realities driving our healthcare “sickness industry.”
    • Critical examination of why the U.S. lags behind other developed nations in social health outcomes.
    • Real-world case studies and health equity initiatives that prove investing in preventive health saves lives and resources.
    • Insights from Peter’s 45 years as a healthcare management consultant, addressing the legacy of cost containment, wage stagnation, and rising chronic conditions like obesity and hypertension.
    • A call for courageous, long-term intervention at scale—backed by data and ethical imperatives—to reshape public health for the next generation.

    Tune in as Peter asks the tough questions about profit-driven healthcare practices and explores intelligent, value-centered solutions. If you’re passionate about shifting the paradigm from “sickness care” to true health—and want practical, inspiring examples—this episode is a must-listen.

    Join the conversation, reflect on what it means to truly “do no harm,” and be part of shaping a healthier future!
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    19 mins
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