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Mom and Mind

Mom and Mind

By: Katayune Kaeni Psy.D. PMH-C
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 Posptartum Depression is real. And it's only part of the story. We dig in to ALL of the stuff that no one tells you about, but you NEED to know. Dr. Kat, Psychologist and specialist in perinatal mental health, interviews moms, dads, experts and advocates about how to cope, manage and recover from perinatal mood and anxiety disorders. We talk about postpartum depression, postpartum anxiety and SO MUCH MORE! We get real. We get honest. We put on our stigma crushing boots and address the realities of the transition to motherhood and parenthood. Learn about it before you find out about it the hard way! You don't have to suffer! www.momandmind.com Hygiene & Healthy Living Parenting & Families Psychology Psychology & Mental Health Relationships
Episodes
  • 433: Then Comes Baby: An Honest Conversation About Birth, Postpartum, and the Complex Transition to Parenthood with Dr. Jessica Vernon, OB/GYN

    433: Then Comes Baby: An Honest Conversation About Birth, Postpartum, and the Complex Transition to Parenthood with Dr. Jessica Vernon, OB/GYN
    Aug 4 2025
    Today’s guest returns to the podcast with her passion for perinatal mental health, and I’m honored to share our conversation with you about her work and her new book, which offers holistic and realistic support for new parents. We cover topics related to birth and postpartum with her real and honest perspective as an Ob/Gyn. Join us! Dr. Jessica Vernon, PMH-C, is a board-certified OB/GYN who has cared for and supported thousands of people throughout their reproductive journeys during the past 15 years. She is the Associate Medical Director and the Director of Mental Health at Oula, a midwifery-based women’s health startup in New York City. As a mom of two, she brings her lived experience in the transition to parenthood to her work, along with a deep passion for providing holistic, people-centered, culturally humble care. Dr. Jessica has developed programs to increase access to perinatal mental health care and improve health equity. She has received professional recognition and been quoted in the media for her work and expertise in the field, as well as for her openness in sharing her story. She serves on the board of directors for Postpartum Support International and is the author of Then Comes Baby: An Honest Conversation About Birth, Postpartum, and the Complex Transition to Parenthood. Show Highlights: An integration of a passion for perinatal mental health, motherhood, and her practice as an OB/GYN The OB/GYN’s role in treating “uncomplicated” postpartum anxiety and depression Dr. Jessica’s current role in collaboration with midwives The decision to write Then Comes Baby The biggest postpartum struggles for new parents Learning to use language with patients that allows them to accept their new feelings and emotions The art of communication and sitting with people–when it’s not taught in medical school Meeting diverse people where they are and with the understanding they need, not with ONE strict protocol for everyone Overcoming cultural factors in transitioning to parenthood and accepting help Matrescence: the changes and shifts in the transition into motherhood An overview of the topics and structure of Dr. Jessica’s book, Then Comes Baby In postpartum, it’s essential to take a pause until your body is ready to resume normal activities. Dr. Jessica’s hopes for those who read her book Resources: Connect with Dr. Jessica Vernon: Website, Instagram, and Then Comes Baby: An Honest Conversation About Birth, Postpartum, and the Complex Transition to Parenthood. Call the National Maternal Mental Health Hotline at 1-833-TLC-MAMA or visit cdph.ca.gov Please find resources in English and Spanish at Postpartum Support International, or by phone/text at 1-800-944-4773. There are many free resources, like online support groups, peer mentors, a specialist provider directory, and perinatal mental health training for therapists, physicians, nurses, doulas, and anyone who wants to be more supportive in offering services. You can also follow PSI on social media: Instagram, Facebook, and most other platforms Visit www.postpartum.net/professionals/certificate-trainings/ for information on the grief course. Visit my website, www.wellmindperinatal.com, for more information, resources, and courses you can take today! If you are a California resident looking for a therapist in perinatal mental health, email me about openings for private pay clients! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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    50 mins
  • 432: From Pain to Purpose: Building Resources for Perinatal Mental Health After Birth Trauma with Beth Partain, LCSW

    432: From Pain to Purpose: Building Resources for Perinatal Mental Health After Birth Trauma with Beth Partain, LCSW
    Jul 28 2025
    Today’s guest is sharing her story as a survivor of postpartum depression, postpartum anxiety, and birth trauma caused by random placental abruption. She is also a NICU mama who learned to balance parenting with the start of her psychotherapy practice to bring therapy to a rural area. Her story has multi-faceted, beautiful parts, and we are honored to have her here. Beth Partain is a licensed clinical social worker and the mother of three beautiful children. She founded Flourish Counseling and Consulting in 2020 to empower women and bring specialized perinatal expertise to an area where it was previously inaccessible. Her passion stemmed from her experience with the local hospital as she struggled through PPD, PPA, and birth/NICU trauma. Beth is the first mental health provider in Owensboro, KY, and the western Kentucky area to have a perinatal mental health certification. She serves on the new Maternal Health Council at her hospital and is a Blue Dot Ambassador, working in advocacy with the Maternal Mental Health Leadership Alliance. She has led two PSI Climbs in Owensboro. Beth works hard to help train local healthcare workers and therapists to identify PMADs from a trauma-informed care focus. Show Highlights: Beth’s story: Her first pregnancy was normal until a random placental abruption at 34 weeks forced an emergency C-section, a three-week NICU stay, and almost zero mental health support. Placental abruption: what it is, how it is detected, and the results Beth’s shock and surprise at how quickly things changed and progressed to an unexpected birth, and navigating a NICU stay for her baby Looking back at the mental health struggles for Beth and her husband, with no support Beth’s realization that she had postpartum depression and anxiety, but did not have access to help Finding help and starting therapy (as a therapist) Making the difficult decision to have another child and grow their family further Beth’s commitment to bringing perinatal care to her rural area and training more providers in the care that she wished she could have had Making connections and partnering with PSI Great strides of progress and encouraging outcomes in changing the PNMH climate in Beth’s area of Kentucky Resources: Flourish Counseling and Consulting Connect with Beth Partain: Facebook Call the National Maternal Mental Health Hotline at 1-833-TLC-MAMA or visit cdph.ca.gov Please find resources in English and Spanish at Postpartum Support International, or by phone/text at 1-800-944-4773. There are many free resources, like online support groups, peer mentors, a specialist provider directory, and perinatal mental health training for therapists, physicians, nurses, doulas, and anyone who wants to be more supportive in offering services. You can also follow PSI on social media: Instagram, Facebook, and most other platforms Visit www.postpartum.net/professionals/certificate-trainings/ for information on the grief course. Visit my website, www.wellmindperinatal.com, for more information, resources, and courses you can take today! If you are a California resident looking for a therapist in perinatal mental health, email me about openings for private pay clients! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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    42 mins
  • 431: Behind the Sessions: Letting go of Guilt About Not Being Present in Postpartum

    431: Behind the Sessions: Letting go of Guilt About Not Being Present in Postpartum
    Jul 24 2025
    Today’s episode explores a crucial topic that warrants our attention. We are discussing the after-effects of postpartum depression, postpartum anxiety, and perinatal mental health conditions. The lingering sense of guilt, sadness, regret, grief, anger, and frustration comes as a result of feeling that you weren’t present during the postpartum time. How much time does it take to “make up” for that time that you felt disconnected and anything but joyful about motherhood? Do you feel that you missed important milestones in your baby’s life? All of these are important questions that many mothers wrestle with in a constant mental battle. Let’s take a closer look. Show Highlights: Where does the unreasonable pressure come from? Are you punishing yourself? The truth: You WERE there in all the ways you could manage at the time. You do acts of love and caring, even if you don’t feel like doing them. What you need now is what you needed then: compassion, support, and loving thoughts. Self-compassion brings gentleness into the picture. Healing needs to happen (and that means allowing yourself to grieve). Dr. Kat leads a healing exercise to try on your own. (Try it!) Your healing is valid and worthwhile, even if you can’t see it yourself. Resources: Call the National Maternal Mental Health Hotline at 1-833-TLC-MAMA or visit cdph.ca.gov Please find resources in English and Spanish at Postpartum Support International, or by phone/text at 1-800-944-4773. There are many free resources, like online support groups, peer mentors, a specialist provider directory, and perinatal mental health training for therapists, physicians, nurses, doulas, and anyone who wants to be more supportive in offering services. You can also follow PSI on social media: Instagram, Facebook, and most other platforms. Visit www.postpartum.net/professionals/certificate-trainings/ for information on the grief course. Visit my website, www.wellmindperinatal.com, for more information, resources, and courses you can take today! If you are a California resident looking for a therapist in perinatal mental health, email me about openings for private pay clients! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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    27 mins
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