In this special capstone episode of The Modern Math Teacher Podcast, I’m joined by John SanGiovanni, co-author of Productive Math Struggle, for a reflective conversation on what productive struggle looks like in real classrooms—and how educators can support it intentionally.

This episode wraps up our six-part Productive Math Struggle mini-series and is guided by questions shared directly from teachers I’ve been working with across my district and county. Together, we reflect on the impact of this work, common challenges teachers face, and practical ways to support student thinking, perseverance, and confidence in math.

💡 In This Episode, We Discuss:

• Why productive struggle matters now more than ever
• How to recognize productive vs. unproductive struggle
• When to step in during struggle—and when to hold back
• Small instructional shifts that make a big impact
• Supporting productive struggle at the classroom and system level
  
  

📘 About the Guest
John SanGiovanni is a best-selling author and nationally recognized leader in mathematics education. He works as a mathematics coordinator in Maryland, leading curriculum and assessment development, professional learning, intervention, and school improvement planning. He is the author of more than two dozen mathematics education books, an international consultant, and a former board member of both the National Council of Teachers of Mathematics and the National Council of Supervisors of Mathematics.

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• Website: sangiomath.com
• Social: @JohnSanGiovanni
  
  
  

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More About the Modern Math Teacher Podcast

Kristen Moore, classroom teacher and instructional coach at Moore Than Just X, empowers modern secondary math teachers to transform the student experience with the strategies and the confidence to implement project-based learning, mastery-based assessment, and student engagement strategies in their classrooms.

Whether you're a math education newbie or a seasoned veteran, you'll find something new and inspiring in every episode. You’re already a listener, why not join the Movement inside ✨The Modern Math Teachers Movement Facebook group. Join the community of math teachers who are not afraid to shake things up and make math class the best part of the day for our students. So tune in each Tuesday, have some fun, and let's elevate our math teaching game together!

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Productive Math Struggle Series — Action 6: Reflecting on Productive Struggle

In the final episode of our Productive Math Struggle series, we explore the power of reflection — the often-missing piece that transforms struggle into lasting learning.

Grounded in research from Phillips (1987) and Sousa (2008), this episode focuses on how intentional reflection helps students make meaning of both what they learned and how they learned it. We share simple, flexible reflection routines that reinforce productive struggle, strengthen math identity, and build habits of perseverance.

🔑Key Takeaways

• Reflection increases retention and meaning-making
• Learning includes experience, not just content
• Reflection reinforces that struggle is valued
• Variety in reflection activities matters
• Reflection should be routine, not constant
• Teacher reflection improves future instruction
• Celebration should be thoughtful and student-centered
  
  

📝Mini Move of the Week

👉 Add ONE reflection prompt focused on struggle to lesson closure.

📚Read along with Us

• Productive Struggle in Math: A 6 Point Action Plan for Fostering Perseverance

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This podcast is a member of the Teach Better Podcast Network. Better Today. Better Tomorrow. And the Podcasts to Help You Get There.

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• Follow on Instagram @moorethanjustx
• Join the Facebook Community: The Modern Math Teachers Movement

More About the Modern Math Teacher Podcast

Kristen Moore, classroom teacher and instructional coach at Moore Than Just X, empowers modern secondary math teachers to transform the student experience with the strategies and the confidence to implement project-based learning, mastery-based assessment, and student engagement strategies in their classrooms.

Whether you're a math education newbie or a seasoned veteran, you'll find something new and inspiring in every episode. You’re already a listener, why not join the Movement inside ✨The Modern Math Teachers Movement Facebook group. Join the community of math teachers who are not afraid to shake things up and make math class the best part of the day for our students. So tune in each Tuesday, have some fun, and let's elevate our math teaching game together!

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Productive Math Struggle Series — Action 5

In Part 5 of our Productive Math Struggle Series, we shift from planning to real-time classroom action: What do you actually do when students struggle?

Instead of panicking, rescuing, or over-explaining (we’ve ALL been there), we walk through five high-leverage, easy-to-implement teacher moves that keep struggle productive — not painful. Using insights from Warschauer (2014), Smith & Stein’s 5 Practices, Mona Iehl, and practical classroom experience, this episode gives you the exact moves to support student thinking without stealing the learning.

🔑 Key Takeaways

• Not all struggle looks the same — knowing the type of struggle helps you respond effectively.
• Supporting struggle ≠ rescuing answers. The real goal is rescuing thinking.
• Small teacher moves have big impact on student confidence, perseverance, and identity.
• Catch-and-Release is one of the most powerful whole-class strategies for addressing common challenges.
• Referrals, graphic organizers, and anchor charts can build independence and reduce learned helplessness.
• Metacognitive micro-questions help students become self-directed learners.
• Honoring mistakes builds trust, reduces math anxiety, and strengthens classroom community.
• Strategic nudging helps prevent spiraling frustration without removing the challenge.

✏️ Mini Move of the Week
👉 When a student gets stuck, don’t explain. Ask ONE metacognitive micro-question. Just one. Watch what happens.

📚Read along with Us

• Productive Struggle in Math: A 6 Point Action Plan for Fostering Perseverance

🔗 Listen & Connect

🎧 Listen here: https://modernmathteacher.buzzsprout.com/share
📸 Instagram: @m

Let’s talk. Send me a message with your email and I’ll get back to you!

This podcast is a member of the Teach Better Podcast Network. Better Today. Better Tomorrow. And the Podcasts to Help You Get There.

Connect with Kristen:

• Follow on Instagram @moorethanjustx
• Join the Facebook Community: The Modern Math Teachers Movement

More About the Modern Math Teacher Podcast

Kristen Moore, classroom teacher and instructional coach at Moore Than Just X, empowers modern secondary math teachers to transform the student experience with the strategies and the confidence to implement project-based learning, mastery-based assessment, and student engagement strategies in their classrooms.

Whether you're a math education newbie or a seasoned veteran, you'll find something new and inspiring in every episode. You’re already a listener, why not join the Movement inside ✨The Modern Math Teachers Movement Facebook group. Join the community of math teachers who are not afraid to shake things up and make math class the best part of the day for our students. So tune in each Tuesday, have some fun, and let's elevate our math teaching game together!

*Amazon orders may provide a small affiliate payout at no extra cost to you. These payouts help keep the podcast free for all!