What does faithful, everyday ministry actually look like behind the scenes?

In this episode of Ministry on the Move, Chris McNeil sits down with Pastor Josh Fisher of Hillside Missionary Church in South Bend, Indiana, for an honest conversation about church leadership, denominational roots, and the realities of shepherding a local congregation.

Josh shares the story of the Missionary Church’s Anabaptist background, the challenges and rewards of revitalizing a smaller church, and why slow, healthy growth often matters more than big numbers. Along the way, they talk about cultural pressure on pastors, consumer Christianity, staying grounded in Scripture, and what it takes to lead with conviction and compassion in today’s world.

Recorded on the road during the McNeils’ Midwest tour, this is a candid, down-to-earth look at the work of ministry and the people serving faithfully week after week.

Part 1 of a two-part conversation with Pastor Josh Fisher.

In Part 2 of my conversation with Pastor Jeremy Eden of North Bay Fellowship in South Texas, we slow down and wrestle with one of the most important — and often misunderstood — questions in the Christian life.

Together we talk through faith and obedience, the role of works, the indwelling of the Holy Spirit, and the very real spiritual battles believers face every day. From the armor of God to temptation, from pastoral responsibility to staying faithful when ministry feels heavy, this is an honest, practical discussion about following Christ in the real world.

No easy answers. No church clichés. Just two pastors opening Scripture and talking it through.

If you’ve ever wondered what genuine faith actually looks like when lived out, this episode is for you.

Ever wonder what pastors and ministers experience behind the pulpit — the triumphs, the struggles, and the unseen battles? Ministry on the Move takes you on a journey across the USA, visiting churches of all shapes and sizes, and sitting down with the people shepherding them.

From personal stories of obedience, faith, and supernatural encounters, to honest conversations about the challenges of ministry, this podcast goes beyond Sunday morning routines. Each episode gives you an inside look at what it really takes to serve, lead, and live faithfully in today’s world.

Whether you’re a pastor, minister, church supporter, or simply curious about life in the trenches of ministry, join Chris and his guests as they explore the heart of the church, the reality of faith, and the power of God at work in ordinary lives.

Discover the stories, lessons, and inspiration that make ministry a calling worth following — wherever the road may lead.