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A weekly wrap of the “must-know” developments in Marketing, Media, Agency and Technology for leaders and emerging leaders in the industry. Veteran industry journalist and Mi3 Executive Editor Paul McIntyre talks each week with guest marketers who are in the know on what matters at the nexus of marketing, agencies, media and technology. Powered mostly by Human Intelligence (HI).2025 315850 LiSTNR - Text, image, music and sound comprising this podcast are owned by or licensed to SCA. By accessing, communicating or using this podcast, you agree to be bound by the terms available at https://www.listnr.com/terms Politics & Government
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  • Super Cannes 25: Suncorp’s Brand, CX boss Mim Haysom on influencers; Why EY Parthenon says risk and creative works for c-suite and Tassal’s Matt Vince is thinking global
    Jun 24 2025

    Cannes was heaving with influencers striking deals, but the message from top marketers, academics and consulting firms was consistent: Go back to fundamentals on brand, embed brand at the heart of business, then execute with consistent creative excellence to drive outsized financial returns.

    Mark Ritson landed that message most emphatically via 10 years worth of Effie data analysed by System1. In short: Do really good work, put enough money behind it, don’t change it; grow more.
    CEOs like Gap Inc’s Richard Dickson are codifying brand to drive business decision-making – and it’s working. Other business leaders remain unconvinced. Hence EY Parthenon’s Karen Crum putting brand and creative investment on the corporate risk register, just like plant, equipment and supply chains. She’s mapped 20 years worth of Fortune 500 filings that show brands looking beyond negative brand risk and investing to maintain brand relevance and value are “more profitable and stayed in the Fortune 500 longer”. Crum’s new paper unpacks how marketers can help articulate that risk in language that will land with the C-suite.

    Tassal Chief Commercial Officer Matt Vince – also the firm’s Chief Risk Officer –said it maintains corporate risk registers for both brand and marketing after 20-years as an ASX-listed business prior to acquisition by Canada’s Cooke Inc. Crum’s paper, he says, resonates deeply, while Tassal’s rigour in building brand –doubling marketing ROI on a flat budget – has seen Cooke’s global CEO fly into town: “The opportunity for us is to start leading [marketing] from a global perspective.” Next, he’s mulling how to embed a creative measurement system, as cited at Cannes by the likes of Nestlé as key to enabling creative growth gains and Grand Prix wins. But Vince is also thinking about influencers after meeting Seal at a TikTok event – and says TikTok “has some amazing things coming in their pipeline”.

    Amid divergence on whether marketing’s fundamentals still apply within a platform-dominated world, Suncorp’s Mim Haysom backed the call to return to basics on distinctive assets – because they resonate in all channels. “We can get obsessed about single channels. But nobody builds brand and marketing plans like that. You look at the whole ecosystem of your brand.”
    But Haysom acknowledged influencers are having a “profound impact” within that ecosystem. “If brands are thinking that it's a flash in the pan they're greatly mistaken.” Which means working through another set of risk management: relinquishing full control of content.
    Here’s their take-outs and take-homes from Cannes 2025.

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    46 mins
  • The CMO Awards Podcast Ep6: Best Growth Initiative of the Year in focus: CMOs of Arnott’s Group, Flintfox share how they unlocked growth opportunities in the very different worlds of B2C and B2C
    Jun 6 2025

    This year’s inaugural CMO Awards weren’t just a showcase of Australian marketing leaders doing an excellent job of marketing stewardship and effectiveness. We also introduced the Best Growth Initiative of the Year award, supported by Publicis Groupe, to single out and recognise strategic growth initiatives led by marketing teams.

    In this podcast episode, we bring together Jenni Dill, CMO of inaugural award winner, Arnott’s Group, with Cath Brands, CMO of highly commended Flintfox International, plus inaugural judge Ty Hayes, former Curtin Uni CMO and founder of Growth Generators, to delve into what it takes to unlock growth that delivers business-grade impact. From first identifying the opportunity, to how they freed up capacity and gained cross-functional buy-in to make it happen, these marketing leaders from very different B2C and B2B worlds shed light on the programs of work that led to success – and importantly, where they had to rethink and pivot.

    For judges, Arnott’s Gluten Free was a clear winner for Best Growth Initiative of the Year award for its gluten free effort – the most incremental launch the FMCG has had to date. Today, gluten-free biscuits make up approximately 10 per cent of the total biscuit market, with an impressive annual growth rate of 40 per cent. Remarkably, Arnott’s has driven 82 per cent of this growth in the past year alone, chalking up $40 million in sales.

    “When we got into it, what people really wanted was our biggest, known, loved icons, but gluten-free versions with no taste trade off. So that pretty quickly set our true north,” says Jenni Dill. “That meant a multi-year journey to invest in new bakeries, establish new ways of working, new methods of baking, new ways of going to market, new locations on shelf. It really was a concerted effort, but we also wanted to make sure we weren't waiting two or three years to do something. So we had to get an MVP in the market. We had to start with our simpler products that were easier to get taste equivalent matches to in a gluten-free version. And then everything we did from a marketing perspective, had to make sure that everything was as incremental as it could possibly be.”

    At Flintfox, meanwhile, the growth opportunity was to take an Australian-made pricing solutions offering into the German, Austrian and Swiss markets.

    “The team and I had two goes at this,” Cath Brands admits. “In the first attempt, we did it the lazy way – we put a translate button on the website, did some contextual translation of what we did and decided to buy some LinkedIn media. Turns out that that's not how you go to business in Germany. That's not how the Germans play the game.”

    Take two required an all-encompassing approach: Native product extension, translation and new integrations with SAP, identifying nuanced user and macro conditions, building a market presence from scratch and a go-to-market approach. The result was winning two really big customers in Germany last year worth millions.

    For Ty Hayes, however different this year’s winner and highly commended brands may be, each identified strategic, innovative, approaches to drive significant net new revenue. “That was either attacking a new category or creating a new category, or entering a new market,” he says.

    They also demonstrate what Hayes sees as the top three things every growth initiative of substance needs: “Insight, foresight and experimentation”.

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    58 mins
  • Blending Sharp and Ritson: Distinctive differentiation and custom media moves needle for CommBank, Subway, NRMA Insurance as News Australia shifts approach.
    Jun 5 2025

    Byron Sharp is a distinctive assets maximalist, suggesting how brands look and are recognised and embedded into people’s minds is more important than focusing on what they do differently to rival brands. Mark Ritson argues brands need differentiation to stand out from rivals and pull customers in. News Australia says you need both to drive growth – and that custom-made media that delivers engagement beyond reach is a critical multiplier.
    News Australia has just wrapped up its nationwide agency engagement roadshow, Frontiers, diving deep with hundreds of agency execs across dozens of workshops to unpack how to cut through and deliver much sharper results amid a comms sea of sameness. The key is moving beyond old-school approaches of tonnage-based reach and the legacy constructs of ‘paid, owned and earned’ media.


    Case studies for CommBank, NRMA Insurance, Subway and Toblerone strongly suggest the approach is working: Subway notched 3 per cent sales gains; NRMA Insurance and News Australia’s positive influence helped secure $7.2bn in government funding to fix Queensland’s Bruce Highway. Unsurprisingly, more Queenslanders now like NRMA Insurance than before.
    Now News Australia wants to work with agencies and brands to build better campaigns and more case studies. But that requires a shift in approach to planning and content creation. It’s harder work, says GM of Client Growth & Experience, Renee Sycamore, but powerful results prove “the effort definitely pays off”.

    The key to achieving “distinctively different” campaigns says Head of Growth Intelligence, Leigh Lavery, is to focus on three critical elements: Making content magnetic (i.e. it gets attention); momentous (i.e. contextually relevant, capturing the zeitgeist) and meaningful (i.e. saying and doing something that adds value to customers).

    But going against conventional wisdom on mass reach may also be required. As National Head of Digital Strategy and Streaming Dianna Molinaro puts it: “Everyone’s got reach … but what our agency partners and marketers really care about is the impact.” Likewise, everyone has data: “It’s about what we do with it.”

    Now News Australia is powering custom-made media with behavioural audience signals across the network to connect intent and content. Molinaro says data-driven relevance is where the growth gold lies.

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    42 mins

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