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A weekly wrap of the “must-know” developments in Marketing, Media, Agency and Technology for leaders and emerging leaders in the industry. Veteran industry journalist and Mi3 Executive Editor Paul McIntyre talks each week with guest marketers who are in the know on what matters at the nexus of marketing, agencies, media and technology. Powered mostly by Human Intelligence (HI).2026 Mi3 Politics & Government
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  • Why context matters: How Quest captured consumer intent to drive awareness boost, 20% sales uplift
    Nov 5 2026
    Host: Nadia Cameron, Publisher | Editor – Marketing ‘Context is key’ is one of those age-old principles most people hold to be true. But when it comes to advertising, our industry can get rather one-track minded on what context best serves conversion, commonly placing the emphasis and weight on the point of purchase, or last-click, to gain a commercial result. Yet as protein and nutrition brand, Quest, and its media agency partner, Pearman Media, discovered, pick an environment where need states are formed further up the food chain, and you can drive even more impactful bottom-line results. And for Quest, that meant hitting the gym. Quest was returning to above-the-line advertising after a three-year hiatus, looking to rebuild awareness and consideration in an increasingly noisy protein snacking category. As Pearman Media group business director, Tara Lammond, puts it, one common question in marketing is ‘Where do people buy?”. But for this campaign, the more impactful question became: ‘Where does demand begin?’. “When we were looking at our consumer insights, we could see 70 per cent of people go to the gym before they go to the grocery store. That was a really good indicator for us that we should be targeting people in both places,” Lammond says. The campaign for Quest’s new Protein Tortilla Chips – chosen as because it’s a differentiated product format in a sea of protein bars and bites dominated by giant FMCG players – centred around leveraging two complementary VMO environments: VMO Shop, the media operator’s retail solution; plus VMO Active, its gyms network. With just one pack shot on-hand, VMO’s in-studio team also created 3D animated assets that could best target audiences while they were exercising, as well as for follow up at the path to purchase. “We knew our audience were wanting to get fit; they were already interested in their health and wellness, and in going to the gym regularly, they had this undivided time to be able to hit with the message,” Lammond says. Going with one supplier in VMO who could access consumers through that journey, and also deliver the brand uplift study to prove out effectiveness, made for a smarter, more streamlined program of work, Lammond continues. This outdoor play was complementary by a smaller audio campaign on Nova to build frequency and cement awareness. Quest climbed aboard the strategy quickly. “It just shows too that if you have the evidence and the research to back it up and the decisions that you're making, not all clients are driven to the performance end,” says Lammond. The integrated VMO play proved significant: A 20 per cent sales uplift during the six-week campaign. Off the back of this, Quest extended the campaign into October and November. But it’s the surprising contribution of a contextually relevant environment that was even more fruitful, overindexing in brand lift and consideration metrics. With proximity to the supermarket shelf itself so crowded, Quest gained an ability to stand out well beyond what its media dollars would otherwise have allowed it to. Per VMO’s proprietary tool, Validate, awareness of Quest reached 67 per cent among those who saw the campaign, compared to 43 per cent who didn’t. Layering VMO Active on top delivered another 11 percentage points on average across awareness, trial, purchase intent and recommendation, compared with just VMO Shop alone. While VMO Shop-only awareness grew from 43 per cent to 54 per cent, trial inched up 3 per cent to 23 per cent. By contrast, VMO Active reached delivered 84 per cent product awareness and 52 per cent trial, more than double the control group on both counts. “We do really well for FMCG brands wanting to drive sales in store by using our retail network, or we do really well with health food nutrition products who want to target those consumers in the gym environment. Using the two to actually drive sales was something we've been pushing for a long time,” comments VMO managing director, Paul Butler. “Gyms could be a real amplifier for the brand metrics you would have got just using one retail media opportunity.” Including fitness within updated Move measurement released earlier this year provided a critical instrument to proving the power of the two out. “Those brands that are prepared to look at the unique environment and the attributes of the gym space will see … there's new audience and more share of voice opportunities with the combination of existing retail. That's a real potent mix,” says Butler. “There are these newer audiences available that are not used to seeing some of these messages. That's where you can really get some uptick.” Butler now has his sights set on proving the unique combined power of other out-of-home environments, such as its office tower network and petro-convenience sites with retail media. “Those sorts of environments provide ways that you can stand out. There are big dwell times; ...
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    34 mins
  • Avoiding the efficiency trap: How marketing shifts from precision to prediction
    Oct 6 2026

    Host: Nadia Cameron, Publisher | Editor – Marketing

    Marketing teams have become incredibly good at optimising campaigns and communications through ever-more precise data and measurement tools. But have we been pursuing precision and ROI to the point where we’ve optimised and measured ourselves into oblivion?

    That’s a key question that lies at the heart of the latest Mi3 podcast episode. The second question immediately alongside it: If modern measurement tools are telling us what worked in the past, how do we find the complementary intelligence that’ll help us predict the customers and trends that might drive effective strategies for future growth?

    There’s no doubt the rise of digital media and performance marketing have brought marketing teams extraordinary advances in accountability. But for the likes of Les Binet, Mark Ritson and James Hurman, such precision puts brands in danger of losing sight of how to generate future demand.

    How to identify which customers are worth winning longer term is a key piece of the value intelligence puzzle, says social and behavioural scientist, Ross Honeywill – and he’s pitching his 5.5m next economic order (NEO) consumers as the predictive bellwether for early adoption as well as less price-sensitive customer mindsets.

    For David Jones’s GM of marketing and retail media, Melissa Polglase, escaping a short-term view is tough in an economic climate where growth is hard to come by. “The digital world has allowed us to track ROAS conversion at a really microscopic level, and that can be quite addictive, particularly in a very choiceful economy now, where customers are really being quite prudent in how they’re spending,” she agrees.

    Moreover, platforms are great at “driving an outcome to an audience within a platform”, continues Polglase. Getting past that firstly means staying true to the marketing strategy. But it also means adopting a more customer-oriented mindset, says Polglase.

    For example, focusing on a more affluent customer who identifies with experiences and quality was a critical step in designing the retailer’s customer loyalty program – and such care has paid dividends, including a +40 per cent better transaction value than non-member shoppers.

    “It really comes down to putting customer strategy ahead of channel optimisation and having the leadership in place to be bold, and to be able to continue driving short-term results while asking long-term questions,” Polglase says.

    OMD chief strategy officer, Rob Frost, agrees digitisation has tipped the scales too far towards optimisation. “What we were doing is taking any metrics we could get and saying this was a proxy for something else that happened,” he says. “At the same time, what we started to do is apply those metrics to any piece of activity beyond direct response as well. So we started thinking, how can we do this for our brand? Then we fell into this trap of short terms.”

    One of the critical things about consumers with a NEO mindset is they choose what matters to them, explains Honeywill. Unlike traditional consumers, they’re also socially progressive, independent minded and curious about what comes next – and importantly, “are more ready to spend and spend more frequently and pay more for a difference they believe in”.

    While NEOs appeal, Frost is quick to warn against “oversegmenting” for the sake of it, particularly in the upper funnel. “If we know that speaks to 95 per cent of your out-of-market customer base at any point, we should be thinking about building up that distinctive brand for the long term, however possible. But there seems to be really interesting use cases for any segmentation, especially when we start to look at that predictive element of how we do that in the mid and lower funnel,” he says.

    One of the things Omnicom is looking at is building what Frost dubbed “a brand brain”. “This would allow us to pull in real-time [customer] signals and understand not just what's happened previously in all of your campaigns through your modelling, results and metrics, but start to get an idea of how those real-time signals are starting to impact what happens in the lives of consumers or within your categories,” he says.

    “If we have a way of building these brand brains and repositories of that kind of data and information, and can find smarter ways of asking the right questions and pulling from that, we can get closer to doing something different – and that hopefully better predicts a potential outcome than we ever have done before.”

    See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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    1 hr
  • Unpacking Nine’s ‘sofa to street’ proposition: How unmatched local scale and a cohesive cross-channel play will unlock commercial growth for Australian advertisers.
    Sep 24 2026
    This year’s Nine Upfronts gave brands and media buyers a decidedly different narrative to engage in, and it wasn’t just down to the high-production, immersive format of its showcase. Nine put forward a confident content slate that exuded what the locally owned and operated media company does best: Breadth of Australian programming, talent and connection across sports, entertainment, drama, news and lifestyle. But secondly, it revealed the engine fuelling how it’s taking all this to market in 2027 has been strategically recharged. As Nine’s chief executive officer, Matt Stanton, and chief sales officer, Matt James, told Mi3 in a podcast recorded in the immediate afterglow of the Upfronts event, Nine has become a very different media company in the last 12 months. Having tackled the heavy lifting on portfolio mix and strategy, it’s putting forward a refreshingly firm, unified proposition that covers broadcast to streaming, publishing and digital-out-of-home. Propelled by its most integrated owned and operated media offering to date, buoyed by the $850m acquisition of digital out-of-home player QMS, Nine is pitching a ‘sofa to street’ cross-platform play for advertisers, supported by a single media planning and buying platform, Nine Neo. This go-to-market strategy is designed to bring cohesion to how brands trade and measure the effectiveness of what Nine has to offer. And it’s backed by significant investment into unifying audience targeting and insights extending from screens into physical locations and commerce. The upshot: Nine is pitching itself as a strong contender against big tech and the global streaming platforms, and the only Australian-owned, fully integrated media network that can connect brands to audiences across their entire day. It’s a crucial time to shore up this full-funnel, multi-channel proposition in market. Hundreds of millions of ad dollars have exited the linear and broadcast industry over recent years, reallocated to digital platforms and walled gardens. There’s active debate right now around whether it’s the responsibility of government, media buyers or brands to proactively back Australia’s domestic media industry. Many agree supporting local-first content and journalism is crucial to societal cohesion and cultural connection. But ultimately, media companies have to demonstrate they have the audiences, scale and solid returns on investment to win ad dollars. That’s what Nine is backing itself to provide. Stanton pointed to the power of the State of Origin, Olympics and Married at First Sight in delivering cultural moments as his first proof point. “It's very important to have scale and diversity in this marketplace,” Stanton continued. “If you are a single platform – and it doesn't matter how big you are – it’s very difficult to compete with some of the big global tech players because obviously, they have the investment of a whole global team versus a local team like ours. So it's really important to get these three business units – streaming and broadcast, publishing, and out-of-home – working closely together, but also in their own right as well. They have to stand on their own two feet is the way I think about it, but then they've also got to collaborate when they need to collaborate … That's the only way we are actually going to be able to compete with the big global players. “That’s very clear to me, and the portfolio changes we’ve talked about are really significant. Now, it’s about execution, and using these three big assets at the right time, either individually or cooperatively.” Then there’s strength in fully owning and operating such assets. Nine has a “powerful” ability to unify and coordinate these all the way from content to data, technology, audience and cultural moment, said James. “It’s a big full-funnel proposition that enables us to start from brand to covering the breadth between awareness and transaction,” he said. “This is also only going to work if you fundamentally have your strategic destiny in your own hands. This requires unified content delivery systems. It requires unified IDs around our 22 million audience base. And it needs all of the investments we are making in the technology to develop this the right way. “Everything we’re developing comes with a long-term perspective, which I think is another one of our fundamental differences. I appreciate there are lots of partnerships going on in that [out-of-home] marketplace, but you can't make these kinds of investments and unify that in the way we're unifying our data, and even our content platforms across 9Now and Stan.” James additionally points to the heft of Nine’s assets today as evidence it can deliver this to advertisers. “They really do reach most of Australians, and anything we now do, we can develop from a long-term perspective, particularly as we embed outcomes-based reporting,” he said. Nine’s commitment to ...
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    47 mins
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