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Messy Family Podcast : Catholic Conversations on Marriage and Family

Messy Family Podcast : Catholic Conversations on Marriage and Family

By: Mike and Alicia Hernon : Catholic Marriage Parent and Family
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Parenting is not a clean-cut, simple process for those who like to follow the rules. Family life is messy and unpredictable, but it is the greatest adventure you will ever have. We are Mike and Alicia Hernon, parents of 10 children with a growing number of grandchildren, and we would like to invite you into some of the conversations we have had with each other about marriage, parenting, and Catholic family life. Our hope is that our conversation sparks a dialogue between you and your spouse that leads to greater unity and intentional Christian parenting in your home. Listen in to our podcast and start the conversation as we seek to lead our families to heaven. Visit us at https:///www/MessyFamilyProject.org for resources, guides, links and show notes.2025 Christianity Parenting & Families Relationships Spirituality
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  • MFP 363: Growing Up Hernon - What it's like in a large, loud, loving family
    Dec 22 2025
    Summary

    What's it really like growing up in a big family?

    In this special Hernon kids takeover podcast, Mike and Alicia's children gather around the mic to tell the honest, funny, and heartfelt story of their upbringing. From loud dinner tables and sibling fights to deep bonds, meaningful traditions, and moments of feeling unseen, the Hernon siblings share what shaped them—for better and for worse.

    They talk openly about the challenges of a large family, how sibling relationships filled the gaps when parents were stretched thin, and why intentional traditions mattered more than perfection. Along the way, they relive unforgettable childhood stories (including melted crayons, camping disasters, and a legendary vomiting incident), reflect on personality differences, and offer wisdom for parents raising kids today.

    This episode is a gift to parents wondering if they're "doing enough"—and a reminder that love multiplies, even when life is messy.

    Key Takeways: 1. Big Families Are Hard—And That's Not a Bad Thing

    Most of the siblings admitted they didn't always love growing up in a large family—especially as teenagers. But looking back, they see how it built character, resilience, and lifelong relationships.

    2. Parents Won't Always Get It Perfect

    Several siblings shared moments when they felt overlooked or unseen. Yet the overwhelming takeaway was this: they knew they were loved, even when time and energy were limited.

    3. Siblings Matter More Than We Realize

    In a big family, siblings often become secondary parents, confidants, and companions. Those relationships became one of the greatest gifts of their upbringing.

    4. Traditions Shape Identity

    From Christmas breakfasts and dinner games to family retreats and service visits, traditions created a shared story and sense of belonging that lasted into adulthood.

    5. Conflict Isn't Failure—It's Formation

    Fighting, disagreements, and personality clashes were part of the family culture. Learning forgiveness, conflict resolution, and reconciliation turned those struggles into growth.

    6. Intentionality Beats Perfection

    What stood out most wasn't flawless parenting—but parents who cared, listened, showed interest, and tried to be present whenever possible.

    Couple Discussion Questions:

    • How do sibling relationships function in your family right now? How might you help strengthen them?

    • How do you currently handle conflict in your home—and what might forgiveness look like more intentionally?

    • What kind of family culture do you hope your children will talk about someday?

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    1 hr and 5 mins
  • MFP 362: Choosing to Be Wrong Together, Over Being Right Alone
    Dec 15 2025

    Your decisions may not always be perfect, but you can choose to make them together.

    Summary

    In this week's podcast, we dive into one of the most important truths for married couples: you will never make a perfect decision—but you can choose unity. Today's culture urges us to optimize everything with hacks, experts, and AI, yet the real power in family life comes from spouses acting together. We share our own stories of big decisions—moves, career changes, even grad school—and how waiting for unity brought peace and strength to our home.

    Join us as we unpack how to stay united: understanding each other's processing style, praying together, deferring in love, and avoiding the trap of needing to win. Your decisions may never be perfect—but they can always be made together. Tune in and strengthen the unity that makes your family thrive!

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    1 hr and 2 mins
  • MFP 361: The Story of All Stories: Catholic Parenting & Hospitality with Emily Stimpson Chapman
    Dec 8 2025

    "Hospitality and real community starts by inviting people into your messy home…"

    Summary

    In this episode, Mike and Alicia sit down with best-selling Catholic author Emily Stimpson Chapman to talk about Advent, Storybook for young Catholics, and the beauty of simple hospitality. Emily shares the real, lived rhythms of Advent in her home—reminding parents that peace and prayerfulness grow best when traditions are tied to everyday routines and kept flexible, not burdensome.

    Emily also introduces her newest work, The Story of All Stories, a beautifully crafted children's story Bible from Word on Fire that presents salvation history as one unified narrative. Although written for ages 7–13, it has already captivated teens, parents, and grandparents alike.

    Finally, the conversation turns to hospitality—how ordinary families can open their homes joyfully, even amid noise, chaos, and little ones. Emily offers practical tips, simple meal ideas, and a vision for welcoming others that prioritizes connection over perfection.

    Key Takeaways
    • Advent traditions work best when tied to existing family routines—like dinner—rather than starting from scratch.

    • Flexibility in traditions preserves peace and allows your family to embrace the joy of the season without stress.

    • Hospitality doesn't require perfection—simple meals and genuine presence build true community.

    • Opening your home combats loneliness and helps families live their mission together.

    Couple Discussion Questions
    1. What Advent traditions have been life-giving for our family—and which ones cause unnecessary stress?

    2. How could we anchor Advent prayer or traditions more naturally into our existing daily routine?

    3. In what ways do we tell the story of salvation to our children? Is there room to deepen our approach?

    4. When we think about hospitality, what holds us back most—perfectionism, time, or fear?

    5. Who is one person or family we could invite over in the next two weeks for a simple, joy-filled meal?

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    48 mins
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