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This week Eugene and Allison talk about a famous Kansas family and listener request, The Benders. Send us your recommendations and maybe we'll feature your request next!

Sources:

Library of Congress: https://blogs.loc.gov/headlinesandheroes/2024/10/bloody-benders/

Library of Congress: https://guides.loc.gov/homestead-act/introduction?loclr=blogser

Humanities Kansas: https://www.humanitieskansas.org/get-involved/kansas-stories/people/true-crime-in-kansas-the-mystery-of-the-benders

Kansas University Alumni: https://kansasalumnimagazine.org/magazine-article/bloody-benders-property/

Historical Marker Database: https://www.hmdb.org/m.asp?m=275329

Pittsburgh State: https://digitalcommons.pittstate.edu/fa/439/

Harpers Weekly: https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=mdp.39015027796633&seq=477&q1=bender

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Kayla is back with us again this week to close out last week's episode on who gets to do history: the remembering, the forgetting, and the interpreting. Email us with your questions!

Book Mentions (cont. from Ep. 9 Part 1):

The Power of Place by Dolores Hayden

Standing Soldiers, Kneeling Slaves: Race, War, and Monument in Nineteenth-Century America by Kirk Savage

Silencing the Past: Power and the Production of History by Michele-Rolph Trouillot

The Participatory Museum by Nina Simon

A People's History of the United States by Howard Zinn

All That She Carried by Tiya Miles

Podcast Recommendations:

The Intelligence by The Economist titled The Weekend Intelligence: The Memory Keepers, August 9, 2025

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This week, Allison and Eugene are joined by Kayla Nelson, a public historian. She shares with us the details of who gets to do the remembering, forgetting, and interpreting of history and how those decisions are inherently non-neutral and often politically motivated.

Book Mentions:

The Power of Place by Dolores Hayden

Standing Soldiers, Kneeling Slaves: Race, War, and Monument in Nineteenth-Century America by Kirk Savage

Silencing the Past: Power and the Production of History by Michele-Rolph Trouillot

The Participatory Museum by Nina Simon

A People's History of the United States by Howard Zinn

All That She Carried by Tiya Miles

Podcast Recommendations:

The Intelligence by The Economist titled The Weekend Intelligence: The Memory Keepers, August 9, 2025

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Allison and Eugene talk about how society treats White women.

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Allison and Eugene explain some of the standard terms we use in our field.

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Story of the 671st Tank Battalion, the real Black Panthers.

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Allison and Eugene take a look at the genocide, the history behind the word, and discuss if the Indigenous experience in America qualifies as a genocide.

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Churchill, Ward. A Little Matter of Genocide: Holocaust and Denial in the Americas, 1492 to the Present. San Francisco, CA: City Lights Books, 1997.

Churchill, Ward. Indians are Us?: Culture and Genocide in Native North America. Monroa, ME: Common Courage Press, 1994.

Churchill, Ward. Kill the Indian, Save the Man: The Genocidal Impact of American Indian Residential Schools. San Francisco, CA: City Lights, 2004.

Churchill, Ward. Struggle for the land: Native North American resistance to genocide, ecocide, and colonization. San Francisco, CA: City Lights, 2002.

Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide, Adopted by the General Assembly of the United Nations on 9 December 1948, United Nations - Treaty Series, vol. 78: No. 1021.

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Diamond, Jared M. Guns, Germs, and Steel: The Fates of Human Societies. New York, NY: W.W. Norton & Company, 1997.

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Freeman, Michael. “Puritans and Pequots: The Question of Genocide.” The New England Quarterly 68, no. 2 (June 1995): 278–93. https://doi.org/https://doi.org/10.2307/366259.

Jaimes, M. Annette. The State of Native America: Genocide, Colonization, and Resistence. Boston, MA: South End Press, 1992.

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The girl who was accused, tried, and found innocent of killing her father.

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