In this episode of Martin Lycka’s Safe Bet Show, Martin sits down with Leonardo Baptista, CEO of Pay4Fun, to explore the evolution of Brazil’s gaming and payments industry. Leonard shares his journey from his early days at Bat Motion in 2004 to founding Pay4Fun in 2017.

The discussion covers Pay4Fun’s unique positioning in the market, thanks to its regulatory expertise, advanced API solutions, and deep understanding of local needs, as well as the complex path toward a regulated gambling framework in Brazil.

The conversation also dives into how Pay4Fun is helping to combat illegal gambling through KYC, transaction monitoring, and close collaboration with regulators.

Leonardo highlights the importance of responsible gaming, detailing initiatives like deposit limits and financial monitoring, alongside Pay4Fun’s charity work.

In the latest episode of the Safe Bet Show, Martin Lycka is joined by Grainne Hurst, CEO of the Betting and Gaming Council (BGC), who returns to the show after four years to share invaluable insights into the ever-evolving world of gambling and gaming.

Grainne discusses how the UK gambling industry has become "bigger, better, more responsible, and more responsive," representing over 90% of the regulated market—including local betting shops, iconic land-based casinos, online bingo operators, and major global brands.

Learn about Grainne's personal connection to gambling through family traditions like the Grand National sweepstakes and her enjoyment of horse racing, political betting, blackjack, and online roulette—showcasing the diversity of the BGC’s membership and services.

In addition, Grainne reveals the BGC's ongoing mission to modernise UK casinos, enforce the Gambling Act Review White Paper reforms, and address challenges like the new tax consultation from the UK Treasury that could unintentionally drive players to the dangerous black market.

With £4bn already staked on unregulated sites by 1.5 million Brits, the BGC’s fight against this threat includes launching global roundtables and advocating for smart, "frictionless" affordability checks that protect consumers without pushing them offshore.

🎙️ In this episode of Martin Lycka's Safe Bet Show, we sit down with Dr. Jennifer Shatley, Executive Director of Roga (Responsible Online Gaming Association), for a conversation on the future of responsible gaming. With a unique academic background—especially her communications degree rooted in research and statistics—Dr. Shatley brings a data-driven mindset to her work. She reflects on her tenure at Caesars, where she led initiatives like Responsible Gaming training and the creation of the Responsible Gaming Ambassador role.

🌍 Dr. Shatley also shares global insights from her consulting work, particularly in Japan, emphasising the need for culturally sensitive and targeted responsible gaming programs. She explains why a one-size-fits-all approach doesn't work, highlighting the importance of tailoring messaging to resonate with different demographics and cultural values. Throughout the discussion, she underscores the central role of research—emphasising the need for actionable insights that translate into real-world, adaptable policy solutions.

🧠 As the head of Roga—formed by eight major US gaming operators representing 90% of the market—Dr. Shatley outlines the organisation’s five-pillar mission: actionable research, best practices, education (including the “Know Your Play” campaign), a national data clearinghouse, and a certification program to set industry standards. Looking ahead, she shares Roga’s vision to integrate responsible gaming across the entire player journey, shift the narrative from problem gambling to player well-being, and use shared data to drive personalisation and prevention.