Robin & David are joined in the run up to World Fantasy in Brighton (UK) by Joe Hill, whose new novel, King Sorrow, is his first in nine years. This episode is a real doozy, with the chat ranging far-and-wide. Not to be missed! Check out our new detailed timestamps at the bottom of these notes.

https://britishfantasysociety.org/blog/bfs-podcast-long-story-short/

[There are handful of F-bombs in the episode]

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Learn more about Joe here: https://www.joehillfiction.com/#intro

Visit David’s website: https://www.davidgreenwriter.com/

And Robin’s: https://robincmduncan.com/

Time stamps (with about 30s lead-in)

(03:06) a home in the British Fantasy community

(05:35) 2000AD

(06:52) King Sorrow

(11:49) other kinds of peril

(13:48) Better Call Saul

(15:03) Dark Academia

(16:48) a Ken Follet epic

(21:29) the Broken Binding special edition

(24:20) illustration and physical books

(27:02) the Orwellian thing

(28:17) the pain is the point

(32:26) themes in King Sorrow

(36:40) dragon tattoos

(37:47) dragons like cats

(38:39) emptying the full magazine

(41:01) Stephen King

(48:52) King Sorrow; horror or fantasy?

(51:23) how terrible to live in Middle Earth

(53:26) banned books / we're all f**ked

(56:10) World Fantasy

(57:21) Locke & Key

(66:38) Return of the Jedi is not very good

(69:30) Hunger, a novel (2026)