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Living with Heart: From Birth to Death

Living with Heart: From Birth to Death

By: Dr. Chip Dodd & Bryan Barley
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Dr. Chip Dodd’s ”The Voice of the Heart” is one of the seminal and most practically impactful books of the last several decades in the counseling, coaching, and mentorship space. In ”Living with Heart,” Dr. Dodd joins co-host, Bryan Barley, to discuss with greater depth, detail, and practicality how to live with heart through the entire journey of life - from birth to death.Copyright 2024 All rights reserved. Christianity Personal Development Personal Success Relationships Social Sciences Spirituality
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  • 75 - Pitfalls of Leadership: #4 Isolation Becomes "Safety"
    Jul 8 2025

    The "Living with Heart" Podcast is brought to you by Chip Dodd Resources (www.chipdodd.com) and The Voice of the Heart Center (vothcenter.com). You can connect with Dr. Chip Dodd at chip@chipdodd.com. Contact Bryan Barley for coaching at bryan@vothcenter.com.

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    38 mins
  • 74 - Pitfalls of Leadership: #3 People Become Things
    Jul 1 2025

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    The "Living with Heart" Podcast is brought to you by Chip Dodd Resources (www.chipdodd.com) and The Voice of the Heart Center (vothcenter.com). You can connect with Dr. Chip Dodd at chip@chipdodd.com. Contact Bryan Barley for coaching at bryan@vothcenter.com.

    The 5 Pitfalls are descending steps. One step connects to another with predictable effects.

    Some leaders have referred to the descent as a “chain reaction.”

    The Five Pitfalls:

    1. Work becomes confused with one’s worth.
    2. Performance begins to be valued more than one’s presence.
    3. People become things.
    4. To be an example to others, the true self is isolated.
    5. Secrets sap one’s passion and purpose.

    These pitfalls can destroy careers, friendships, reputations, marriages and families—unless one finds freedom from them.

    People Become Things

    Leaders enter the world of doing good because they wish the pain of the world to be treated, bettered, or healed.

    However, as the leader slips into the pitfalls:

    • the people that the leader wishes to serve become burdensome objects that have to be dealt with
    • the people that the leader works with become objects that have to be manipulated
    • his/her family members become burdensome objects of needs that have to be met
    • the leader who originally planned to benefit others reaches a significant crisis point
    • they must move into neediness as human beings or fade into despair as “human doings.”

    The leader whose worth is trapped in work, and whose performance is valued more than their presence shows symptoms of people becoming things

    They experience “feeling drained” of the passion or energy that had compelled them in the beginning.

    Whether slowly or rapidly, the leader becomes restless, irritable, and discontent.

    Indicators of restlessness and irritable can be overt or covert, but the symptoms are “known” to the leader, but not accurately taken responsibility for.

    Compulsivity takes over for “being compelled.”

    Blame, projection onto others, and denial are hallmarks of the impaired leader at Pitfall #3.

    *The family is usually affected first and foremost, before the signs are noted by others who the leader influences.

    In the name of loyalty the family members begin to take on feelings of “self-blame” and toxic shame that comes with the leader’s self-negligence.

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    35 mins
  • 73 - Pitfalls of Leadership: #2 Performance over Presence
    Jun 24 2025

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    The "Living with Heart" Podcast is brought to you by Chip Dodd Resources (www.chipdodd.com) and The Voice of the Heart Center (vothcenter.com). You can connect with Dr. Chip Dodd at chip@chipdodd.com. Contact Bryan Barley for coaching at bryan@vothcenter.com.

    The Pitfalls are descending steps, one connects to the other with predictable effects.

    Some leaders have referred to the descent as a “chain reaction.”

    This descent can be stopped at any time, with an intervention from others who the leader listens and healthily responds to, or a cry out from the leader in descent who is heard and responded to by others.

    The Five Pitfalls:

      1. Work becomes confused with one’s worth.
    • Performance begins to be valued more than one’s presence.
    • People become things.
    • To be an example to others, the true self is isolated.
    • Secrets sap one’s passion and purpose.

    These pitfalls can destroy careers, friendships, reputations, marriages and families—unless one is freed from them.

    Pitfall #2: Performance Begins to be Valued More than One’s Presence:

    When a leader’s primary personal value is associated with performance, they become someone they are not—"human doings.”

    To be present means to be able to present the truth of our inner selves as human beings to others.

    Presence is the ability to speak the feelings, needs, desire, longings, and hopes of one’s own heart.

    People who are actively present can be “in need” and be led.

    Performers develop contempt for their neediness. They also eventually develop secret contempt and fear towards the needs of others because they see others as the ones who demand that they perform.

    The “ease” of being one’s true self is lost in the “dis-ease” or stress of believing that one is only valuable for their performance.

    People who are performers can be driven by anxiety

    A leader who believes that their performance matters more than their personal presence is actually driven by anxiety, more than they are compelled by inspiration or mission/calling.

    These performers:

    • compete and compare, more than they are called and compelled
    • tragically believe that they are only measured by their last mistake, or the mistakes they haven’t made yet
    • have pride and arrogance, rooted in toxic shame, can drive the leader away from being in need

    A leader is expected to be effective and productive

    A leader is expected to perform and meet the needs of those they are on mission to help, which is good. However, every leader needs a place to go where they can honestly share their own needs, without toxic shame, and where others can do the same.

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    40 mins

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