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Challenge what you think it’s like to live with disability. Hosts Dylan Alcott and Angus O’Loughlin speak to people living with disabilities about their lives and ask them the questions you thought were off-limits. You’ll laugh. You’ll cry. You’ll learn something. This is a podcast for everyone - disabled or abled, and hopes to break down stigmas, change perceptions, and to challenge what you think it’s like to live with disability.2025 From Your Pocket Social Sciences
Episodes
  • Designing Beauty with Disability in Mind | Storm Menzies and Holly Sultana
    Nov 23 2025

    In this episode of ListenABLE, Dylan and Angus sit down with Storm and Holly, the founder and brand ambassador of ByStorm Beauty, a trailblazing inclusive beauty brand designed for people with disabilities.

    They explore the challenges of inaccessible makeup, the importance of representation in beauty, and how ByStorm is creating products that empower the disability community while building a profitable, inclusive business. Storm shares the journey from co-designing accessible tools to collaborating with major brands, while Holly reflects on the personal impact of independence, confidence, and visibility.

    Discover how thoughtful design, community consultation, and advocacy are reshaping the beauty industry—and learn why accessibility benefits everyone.

    Connect with Holly and Storm:

    • Storm: https://www.linkedin.com/in/storm-menzies/
    • ByStorm: https://bystormbeauty.com/
    • Holly: linkedin.com/in/holly-sultana-b37410212

    Chapter Titles & Timestamps

    • 00:00 – Intro: Welcome to Listenable

    • 00:01 – Accessible Makeup Inspiration: How breaking a hand led to a new approach

    • 01:40 – Meet Storm & Holly: Founders and ambassadors of ByStorm Beauty

    • 03:00 – Empowerment Through Representation: How ByStorm impacts the disability community

    • 06:10 – The Problem With Inaccessible Beauty: Everyday struggles and barriers

    • 07:27 – Normalizing Struggle: Holly’s perspective on accessibility and independence

    • 08:33 – Overcoming Ableism in Beauty: Challenges convincing others accessibility matters

    • 12:12 – Building a Disability-Led Business: From prototypes to a thriving brand

    • 16:20 – What is Accessible Makeup?: Tools, attachments, and co-design

    • 18:08 – Collaborations & Industry Impact: Celeste Barber and mainstream engagement

    • 19:43 – Representing ByStorm: The ambassador experience and social impact

    • 25:08 – Community & Advisory Board: Lived experience shaping product development

    • 27:00 – Retail & Global Expansion: Inclusion in stores and future plans

    • 31:04 – Time & Independence: How accessibility saves time and fosters autonomy

    • 33:06 – Product Design Details: Shapes, grips, and user experience

    • 34:52 – Packaging & Unboxing: Accessibility beyond the product itself

    accessible makeup, inclusive beauty, disability advocacy, disability-led business, ByStorm Beauty, makeup for disabilities, co-design products, empowerment, representation in beauty, inclusive product design

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    45 mins
  • Inside Parliament: Senator Jordon Steele-John on Disability, Politics, and Representation
    Nov 9 2025

    Australian Senator Jordon Steele-John joins Dylan Alcott and Angus O’Loughlin to share what life is really like inside Parliament as a wheelchair user and one of the few disabled politicians in Australia. From rushing to Senate votes without extra time allowances to reshaping accessibility in politics, Jordon gives a candid and inspiring look at how inclusion, policy, and representation intersect in Australia’s most powerful building.

    The conversation spans his journey from a 23-year-old Greens candidate from WA to a national advocate for accessibility, neurodiversity, and disability rights. Jordon opens up about moments of misunderstanding on the campaign trail, how his ADHD and cerebral palsy shape his leadership, and why true inclusion starts with “getting our own house in order.”

    This episode is full of insight, humour, and practical advice for anyone—disabled or not—who wants to create change in their community.

    Connect with Jordon:

    • https://www.instagram.com/jordonsteelejohn/?hl=en
    • https://www.linkedin.com/in/jordon-steele-john-656ba917a/

    Key Topics

    • Life as a Senator with disability

    • Accessibility barriers in Parliament House

    • Ableism in political systems

    • How Parliament handles (or doesn’t handle) disability inclusion

    • The power of lived experience in politics

    • Jordon’s journey to the Senate at age 23

    • Disability pride and representation

    • ADHD, cerebral palsy, and leadership

    • Advice for young people with disability wanting to enter politics

    • Building collective action for change

    Quotes

    “If Parliament is going to make laws that fix accessibility in the community, we’ve got to literally get our own house in order first.” – Jordon Steele-John

    “People thought I was collecting for charity, not running for office. That moment showed how deeply society equates disability with needing help, not giving leadership.” – Jordon Steele-John

    “Politics should represent every voice—including people with intellectual and cognitive disabilities. The system can and should be rebuilt to meet everyone’s access needs.” – Jordon Steele-John

    About Jordon Steele-John

    Jordon Steele-John is an Australian Greens Senator for Western Australia and the youngest person ever elected to the Australian Senate. A proud disabled man with cerebral palsy and ADHD, Jordon has been a leading advocate for disability rights, climate justice, and inclusive reform since 2017. His work includes helping establish the Disability Royal Commission and pushing for systemic accessibility across Australian institutions.

    Jordon Steele-John, Dylan Alcott, Angus O’Loughlin, ListenABLE podcast, Australian Parliament accessibility, disability politics Australia, cerebral palsy, ADHD, Greens Senator WA, disability representation, ableism in politics, Disability Royal Commission, inclusion, accessibility reform, disabled leaders, advocacy Australia

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    50 mins
  • "Had a couple of gin & tonics and fell pregnant" | Karni Liddell on parenting with disability
    Oct 26 2025

    In this episode of the ListenABLE with Karni Liddell she opens up about her incredible journey from being diagnosed with a neuromuscular condition at birth to becoming a world class Paralympian, advocate, and mother. Karni reflects on her experiences in elite sport, the evolution of disability representation, and the personal challenges that shaped her strength and perspective.

    She speaks candidly about the realities of motherhood with a disability, the significance of the Paralympics in shifting public perception, and the ongoing fight to ensure people with disabilities are supported and seen.

    Follow Karni:

    https://www.instagram.com/karniliddell/

    https://au.linkedin.com/in/karniliddell

    Key Takeaways
    • Karni was diagnosed at birth with a neuromuscular wasting disease and was told she wouldn't live a long life.
    • Sport became a powerful avenue for confidence, independence, and connection.
    • The Paralympic movement has transformed dramatically over the past 25 years.
    • Motherhood brought new purpose along with new challenges.
    • Visibility and media representation play a critical role in changing perceptions.

    Chapters
    00:00 Introduction to the Podcast and Guest
    05:37 Karni Liddell’s Journey with Disability
    18:38 Motherhood and Disability
    24:39 Celebrating 25 Years of the Paralympics
    25:39 Reflections on the 1996 Paralympics
    28:11 The Impact of Sydney 2000
    30:00 The Evolution of Disability Representation
    32:54 The Future of Paralympic Sports
    35:39 Challenges and Triumphs in Swimming
    37:30 The New Generation of Paralympians
    40:10 Representation in Media and Personal Identity

    Karni Liddell, Paralympian, disability advocacy, motherhood, neuromuscular disease, Paralympic movement, representation, inclusion, athlete stories, resilience

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    45 mins
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