In this episode of License & Unsupervised, we talk about everything from Diet Coke addiction to what it really means to grow up.

We start with Beckee’s legendary Diet Coke habit and Naomi bringing Mountain Dew to Guatemala before diving into what it was like growing up feral in the 90s — no cell phones, no internet, and very little supervision.

From there, the conversation moves into parenting teenagers, the reality of raising boys, and how watching our kids become adults forces us to grow alongside them.

We talk about:

• Growing up without the internet
• Parenting teenagers and letting go of control
• Naomi’s son is pursuing a future as a firefighter
• Beckee’s son is playing football safely
• Why men seem to form friendships so easily
• Boys bonding through video games
• The strange moment when you finally feel like an adult
• Mentoring others in business and leadership
• Being over 40 and becoming more confident in who you are
• Naomi facing the business partner who left
• Beckee growing up as the oldest of four and leading by example
• Faith, belonging, and moments when church didn’t feel like home

This episode is honest, funny, reflective, and a little chaotic — just like life.

Licensed? Yes. Supervised? Not since the 90s.

In this episode of License & Unsupervised, we finally get our sound together — and then immediately start talking about why stylists are rock stars.

We dive into the legacy of Vidal Sassoon and how he revolutionized modern hairdressing, branding, and the idea that the stylist is an artist. Why did stylists traditionally wear black? Because the guest is the rock star — not us.

We talk about:

• What stylists should actually wear today
• Dress codes then vs now
• “Work casual” culture and being okay with mediocre
• Dressing for success behind the chair
• The old BA dress codes
• Working in heels (and what that did to our feet)
• Retail inside the salon and why it matters
• Exclusive product access back in the day
• Paul Mitchell packaging nostalgia
• Kevin Murphy, Salon Centric & Michigan distribution culture
• Naomi smoking for 13 years and quitting
• Beckee’s cigarette experience
• And the Diet Coke addiction cliffhanger

This episode is for hairstylists, salon owners, beauty professionals, and anyone navigating personal evolution inside a creative industry.

Licensed? Yes. Supervised? Depends on the caffeine level.

In this episode of License & Unsupervised, we open up about motherhood, cancer, friendship, and what happens when your children grow into adults.

Both of our sons are seniors in high school, and we talk honestly about what it feels like to watch them step into their future. From tux fittings and milestone moments to the quiet emotional shifts that come with parenting teenagers, this season of life hits differently.

Naomi shares what it was like being a mom of a child with cancer — the emotional drain, the fear, the strength you didn’t know you had, and how that season changed her forever.

Beckee opens up about her three children and how different each of their personalities and paths has been, along with her journey walking alongside her mom’s cancer diagnosis.

We talk about:

• Gilda’s Club and support communities
• The emotional weight of pediatric cancer
• Friendships formed through trauma
• How Naomi and Beckee really became friends
• Life after leukemia
• Parenting adult children
• The unexpected lessons podcasting has taught us
• And the question: “Is the back of the head your business?”

This episode is for moms, parents, cancer families, hairstylists, and anyone navigating life’s big transitions.

Licensed? Yes. Life-supervised? Not always.