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Let's Get Ethical

Let's Get Ethical

By: Michael Sheahan and Robert Fishwick
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What happens when right and wrong aren't black and white? Welcome to Let's Get Ethical, where hosts Michael Sheahan and Robert Fishwick explore complex ethical dilemmas in healthcare—moments where answers aren't in textbooks and clinicians disagree. From end-of-life decisions to resource allocation, these aren't just clinical judgments—they're deeply human ones. Through real stories and expert perspectives, Mike and Rob examine why good people using the same ethical frameworks reach different conclusions. Join the conversation. Let's get ethical.Michael Sheahan and Robert Fishwick Hygiene & Healthy Living
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  • Episode 6 - The Why Behind the Work - Part 1
    Mar 24 2026

    In this heartfelt and candid episode, hosts Rob and Mike getpersonal, stepping back from case discussions to share the "whys" behind their passion for healthcare ethics. Mike, a 30-year respiratory therapy veteran and expert witness on over 26 medical malpractice cases, opens up about what drives his commitment to ethical patient care — from seeing every patient as someone's family member to recognizing that even routine bedside tasks carry life-or-death consequences.

    The two dig into questions that don't have easy answers — when should instinct override protocol? How do you hold colleagues accountable without losing compassion? And what separates a genuine ethical decision from simply following the rules? Rob reflects on his own defining moments, including a harrowing triage decision involving a child that tested the limits of ethical instinct.

    Together, they explore why ethical thinking needs to become"muscle memory" for healthcare professionals, and how ethics extends far beyond medicine into our laws, relationships, and everyday choices. At the core of it all is a simple but powerful belief: that respectful disagreement and genuine compassion are the foundation of any meaningful ethical conversation.

    Honest, unscripted, and occasionally interrupted by a barking dog, this episode captures exactly why these two started the podcast in the first place.

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    59 mins
  • Episode 5 - No Choice Given: The Adriana Smith Case
    Mar 10 2026

    In this thought-provoking episode, Mike and Rob dive deep into one of the most ethically charged medical cases to make headlines in recent memory: the story of Adriana Smith, a brain-dead pregnant woman in Georgia whose family was stripped of their right to make medical decisions due to the state's 2019 Life Act.


    Drawing on the four pillars of bioethics — autonomy, beneficence, non-maleficence, and justice — the hosts examine how a 10-page law with only three narrow exceptions can have profound and deeply personal consequences for real families. They explore the philosophical roots of moral autonomy through the lens of Immanuel Kant's categorical imperative, questioning whether keeping a brain-dead woman on life support against her family's wishes reduces her to nothing more than a vessel — a mere means to an end.


    This isn't a pro-life vs. pro-choice debate. It's a conversation about what happens when legislation fails to account for the complex realities of medicine, and what it truly means to respect the rights of patients and their families.


    Where is the line? Who gets to draw it? And how do we write better laws? Tune in and decide for yourself.

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    29 mins
  • Episode 4 - The Shadow File: What Caregivers Know That Doctors Need to Hear
    Feb 24 2026

    In this follow-up to Episode 2, GR returns with deeper insights on how healthcare providers can better serve veterans and their caregivers. After reflecting on their previous conversation, GR introduces the powerful concept of the "Triangle of Care"—a collaborative model where the medical provider, veteran, and caregiver work together as equal partners in healthcare decisions.

    GR discusses the "shadow file"—the critical observations and patterns that caregivers notice in their 24/7 role that veterans themselves may not report to doctors. From navigating VA systems to understanding why veterans sometimes withhold information during appointments, this episode explores practical ways to ensure caregivers are heard and their expertise is valued.

    The conversation tackles important questions: Should there be a philosophical shift in how we approach veteran care? How can AI and electronic health records better document caregiver involvement? What specific questions should providers ask to get the full picture of a veteran's health?

    Whether you're a healthcare provider, caregiver, veteran, or simply interested in improving patient care, this episode offers actionable insights on creating more effective, compassionate healthcare partnerships.

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    51 mins
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