Jo goes FULL chaotic energy with Lee Hatfield (S.I.P.A. Paranormal Chronicles) as they unpack how Lee launched a paranormal podcast that exploded in 2025, booked guests until mid-January, and still finds time to get stroked by ghosts in creepy jails. From EVPs that make jaws drop to seeing a full apparition walk past his bed in New York, Lee spills the real tea on scientific investigating, time slips, and why patience + spreadsheets = paranormal gold. Jo admits he’s jealous Lee got ghost-touched and they both roast flashy ghost-hunting gadgets. Whether you’re a skeptic or a believer, this episode will make you think and laugh.

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KEY MOMENTS

• Opening chaos – Jo can’t read Lee’s name, blames laundry list, instant friendship roast
• Lee’s origin spark – From one nervous episode with Jo to 47+ bangers and guests booked into 2026
• Behind-the-scenes hustle – Spreadsheets, TidyCal, and the art of never ghosting your own guests
• Personal goosebump story – Lee gets gently stroked by a ghost...no, not that way! + full apparition in NY
• Why it matters – Real investigating means debunking first, wonder second — and that’s how you earn respect