Featured Guests:

• Bill Borden - US Air Force Pilot and Vietnam Veteran, Tre’s Dad
• Dr. Marsha Hirano - Nakanishi - Retired Vice Chancellor for CSU System, Second generation Japanese-American.

2020 has tested us to the breaking point. Many of us have suffered greatly as a result of the pandemic, and for people of color that suffering has compounded an already cumbersome daily reality that comes with living in a society built upon racism and exploitation. The upcoming election offers some comfort, but also comes with the knowledge that even if the election results in a new president, there is so much work to do to create a society that acknowledges and attempts to correct the moral wrongs that have led to our present calamity. It is exhausting!

It is in times like this that we need to truly summon our resilience and ask our elders how they have managed to make it this far and perhaps give us a bit of perspective and context for what’s to come. To do that we talked to two incredible people who have seen and experienced so much of the best and worst of America and lived to tell the tale. The first is Bill Borden, host Tre Borden’s father, who is a 77 year old Vietnam vet, former Air Force pilot who has a lot to say about this country, why what is happening now is necessary, and why America is still the greatest country on earth; the second is Dr. Marsha Hirano-Nakanishi, the child of Japanese parents who went through internment, who went on to go to Stanford and Harvard on her way to becoming a long-time education administrator as Vice-Chancellor of the CSU system. She is also the mother of Tommy Nakanishi, friend of the podcast and dear friend and social justice warrior based in LA. Both Bill and Marsha have gone through many cycles of progress and chaos in this country, they have both endured the death of their soulmates, and yet, they still have an indomitable and joyful spirit that carries them and offers us a lot to think about as a new generation takes the mantle of building a world that can work for everyone.

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