• Making a Difference through More-than-Human Rights - Episode 14 (with César Rodríguez-Garavito)
    Nov 20 2025

    In this conversation, César Rodríguez-Garavito (NYU Law) reflects on his fascinating academic career, explaining his drive to produce 'action research' that enables a positive impact for communities and the environment. He reflects on the balance between academic commitments and advocacy work (especially for Indigenous communities), the critical importance of distributed teams of collaborators, and his innovative approach to using art and multimedia to attract attention to an important cause. The discussion also covers the origins and evolution of the More-than-Human Life programme he leads at NYU, his hacks for personal career management, and advice for early career researchers seeking to make meaningful contributions beyond academia. Cristy and Liz round off with their environmental law updates, including international and transnational developments around climate change, river rights and the rights of nature, changes to fast track and climate legislation in Aotearoa New Zealand and environmental legislation in Australia, and the latest environmental case law developments from around the globe.

    César Rodríguez-Garavito

    Moth - More Than Human Life

    Amphibious research

    The Earth Rights Research & Action (TERRA NYU Law) - Center for Human Rights and Global Justice

    The Thesis Whisperer

    Ecuador’s Voters Protect Rights of Nature, Reject Proposal to Rewrite Constitution

    Preservación ecosistémica: Por primera vez MOP declara reservas de aguas en cuencas de ríos Futaleufú y Puelo

    Lady Tureiti Moxon’s human rights complaint accepted by the United Nations

    New Zealand awarded dubious 'Fossil of the Day' at COP30 climate talks

    Key-concerns-with-the-Fast-track-Approvals-Amendment-Bill.pdf

    EXPLAINER: Changes announced to the Climate Change Response Act 2002

    Would you like to leave us a comment about our show? send us a note here

    Visit our podcast website - where you can find more information, including the show notes.

    We would also like to acknowledge and thank our producer, Claire Burgess.

    You can also find us on the following platforms:

    • LinkedIn - Liz & Cristy
    • Bluesky - Liz & Cristy
    • Our websites - Liz & Cristy
    Show More Show Less
    2 hrs and 10 mins
  • Research Skills Series: Getting and managing grants - Episode 13 (with Elizabeth Macpherson)
    Oct 24 2025

    In this episode of Law at the End of the World, we kick off our new ‘Research Skills Series’. In this first installment, Liz shares her extensive experience of obtaining and administering research funding in a practical, skills-focused discussion. She covers her grant history (successes and failures), key lessons about writing successful applications, common misconceptions, and the realities of managing and delivering grant-funded projects. Liz emphasises the importance of building relationships, writing for interdisciplinary audiences, and the significant administrative work involved in running grants. Cristy and Liz also discuss major environmental law developments including New Zealand's controversial marine and coastal legislation, Australia's upcoming EPBC amendments, climate litigation from Bonaire, and new research challenging the effectiveness of carbon offsets.

    Marine law change angers Māori activist: 'We don't have any rights'

    New marine protections in the Hauraki Gulf

    Environmental Law Initiative v EPA

    Government almost halves methane reduction target, farmers celebrate

    Major changes to climate-related disclosures announced

    Our Marine Environment 2025

    Big shakeup for NZ's research funding

    A/80/117: Report of the Special Rapporteur on the human rights to safe drinking water and sanitation

    Webinar - Capacity Building on developing Amicus Curiae for the African Court's Advisory Opinion...

    Would you like to leave us a comment about our show? send us a note here

    Visit our podcast website - where you can find more information, including the show notes.

    We would also like to acknowledge and thank our producer, Claire Burgess.

    You can also find us on the following platforms:

    • LinkedIn - Liz & Cristy
    • Bluesky - Liz & Cristy
    • Our websites - Liz & Cristy
    Show More Show Less
    1 hr and 26 mins
  • Challenging the foundations of environmental law - Episode 12 (with Emily Jones)
    Oct 6 2025

    In this episode we are joined by critical environmental law scholar Emily Jones to explore the intersections of environmental law, feminism, and academia. Emily discusses her personal journey into academia, the role of feminist theory in environmental law, and the implications of post-human feminism. She makes the case for including more-than-human-rights in the concept of future generations, and discusses the eay in which feminist legal theory can help everyone. We also discuss the importance of collaboration in academia, the intersection of doctrinal and critical legal approaches, and the challenges faced by scholars in navigating their careers. As usual, Cristy and I round off with recent developments in environmental law, including a new General Comment on economic, social, and cultural rights, and the increasing trend of climate litigation. We pay tribute to influential environmental leaders and discuss the implications of a wide range of environmental laws, from international treaties to managing local environmental challenges such as nitrate pollution.

    Who Benefits – a spotlight on lobbying, influence and power

    Emily Jones

    No future for future generations: who is international environmental law for?

    The Rights of Nature as a Legal Response to the Global Environmental Crisis?

    Feminist Theory and International Law: Posthuman Perspectives

    Posthuman Convergences: Transdisciplinary Methods and Practices

    International Law and Posthuman Theory

    Supreme Court - Ellis

    74 countries have now ratified a landmark treaty to protect the high seas. Why hasn’t NZ?

    Protecting orange roughy

    New findings on nitrates in rural drinking water

    Fighting nitrate pollution in Canterbury:

    Would you like to leave us a comment about our show? send us a note here

    Visit our podcast website - where you can find more information, including the show notes.

    We would also like to acknowledge and thank our producer, Claire Burgess.

    You can also find us on the following platforms:

    • LinkedIn - Liz & Cristy
    • Bluesky - Liz & Cristy
    • Our websites - Liz & Cristy
    Show More Show Less
    1 hr and 42 mins
  • Ecological jurisprudence - Episode 11 (with Alessandro Pelizzon)
    Sep 23 2025

    Our guest for this episode is Alessandro Pelizzon, legal academic and author of Ecological Jurisprudence: The Law of Nature and the Nature of Law. We discuss the evolution of ecological jurisprudence, the importance of humility, the intersection of theory and practice, and the impact of utopian imaginings on legal paradigms. Liz and Cristy also highlight the critical role of language in legal scholarship - particularly in comparative contexts - reflecting on the significance of empirical methods in legal research and the need to understand the place-based and historical context of legal language. As usual, the episode finishes with our updates of recent developments environmental law, including some recent water law jurisprudence in Aotearoa New Zealand, Australia's climate targets, and legislative reforms for access to nature in the UK.

    Ecological Jurisprudence: The Law of Nature and the Nature of Law | SpringerLink

    ELI v ECAN and MHV

    High Court finds errors in nitrogen discharge consent — but law changes protect polluters

    Taking action on nitrate | Environment Canterbury

    ECan declares ‘nitrate emergency’ amid drinking water concerns

    For Te Wiki o te Reo Māori, we look at the journey of te reo Māori in our courts

    Albanese unveils ‘responsible’ new climate target to slash emissions over next decade | Australian politics | The Guardian

    Australia’s biggest gas project greenlit to 2070 with ‘partial’ protection for Indigenous rock art | Environment

    National Climate Risk Assessment

    Climate litigation against Holcim: decision draws closer

    Outdoors For All Report



    Would you like to leave us a comment about our show? send us a note here

    Visit our podcast website - where you can find more information, including the show notes.

    We would also like to acknowledge and thank our producer, Claire Burgess.

    You can also find us on the following platforms:

    • LinkedIn - Liz & Cristy
    • Bluesky - Liz & Cristy
    • Our websites - Liz & Cristy
    Show More Show Less
    1 hr and 52 mins
  • Rights of the child, future generations, and care- Episode 10 (with Aoife Nolan)
    Sep 8 2025

    In this episode, Cristy Clark and Elizabeth Macpherson explore the intersections of climate change with the rights of children, future generations, and to care, as well as the question of how to have an impact as an academic. Our guest Aoife Nolan shares her journey into legal academia and beyond, discussing her commitment to children's rights and socio-economic justice. She explores the interconnections between austerity politics and rights, and her approach to balancing academic work with policy engagement. Aoife offers valuable advice for early career researchers on building networks and navigating their careers while maintaining balance and self-compassion, and also emphasises the need for later career academics to provide opportunities.

    Liz and Cristy finish up by discussing new developments in environmental law, including recent case law related to climate change, Indigenous rights, and environmental law. The conversation also explores the recent Inter-American Court advisory opinion on the right to care, and consumer law's role in combating greenwashing.

    Takutai Moana Victory for Ruapuke

    Riverbeds' in Māori customary marine title

    Corte Interamericana de Derechos Humanos

    Posthuman Convergences

    Climate Kids

    A Critical Feminist Evaluation of Climate Adaptation Law

    The Racial Discrimination Act at 50

    Cooper v Minister for Environment and Water [2025] FCA 1009

    Burrup Peninsula ruling

    Court upholds DUH's lawsuit re Apple watches

    Swiss Mitigation case

    A Human Rights approach to the energy Just Transition

    Would you like to leave us a comment about our show? send us a note here

    Visit our podcast website - where you can find more information, including the show notes.

    We would also like to acknowledge and thank our producer, Claire Burgess.

    You can also find us on the following platforms:

    • LinkedIn - Liz & Cristy
    • Bluesky - Liz & Cristy
    • Our websites - Liz & Cristy
    Show More Show Less
    1 hr and 39 mins
  • River personhood - Episode 9 (with Erin O'Donnell)
    Aug 23 2025

    In this episode of 'Law at the End of the World', hosts Elizabeth Macpherson and Cristy Clark interview Dr Erin O'Donnell, water law expert and author of 'Legal Rights for Rivers', about her journey from desert ecology to pioneering research on river personhood and Indigenous water justice.

    Erin discusses her groundbreaking work on legal rights for rivers, her role on the Birrarung Council, the voice of Melbourne's Yarra River, and her current research exploring how treaty processes could address 'aqua nullius' and increase traditional owner power in water governance. The conversation covers research methodologies that prioritise Indigenous partnership and reciprocity, the temporality of relational governance, and practical approaches to recognising rivers as living entities. The episode concludes with updates on significant environmental law developments including the ICJ climate advisory opinion and recent legislative changes across jurisdictions.

    Dr Erin O'Donnell

    The bill that will torch Māori-Crown relations

    Response to the Government’s limitations on judicial review under the Fisheries Act

    Resource Management (Consenting and Other System Changes) Amendment Bill 105-3 (2024))

    Millewa-Mallee native title win gives traditional owners exclusive rights

    Cowichan Tribes v. Canada

    International Law and Posthuman Theory

    The Māori values that make good sense in science

    Obligations of States in respect of Climate Change

    Inter-American Court of Human Rights Advisory Opinion

    River Test Motion

    Unyoke the Sciences From the Hum

    Would you like to leave us a comment about our show? send us a note here

    Visit our podcast website - where you can find more information, including the show notes.

    We would also like to acknowledge and thank our producer, Claire Burgess.

    You can also find us on the following platforms:

    • LinkedIn - Liz & Cristy
    • Bluesky - Liz & Cristy
    • Our websites - Liz & Cristy
    Show More Show Less
    2 hrs and 11 mins
  • Legal geographies of water - Episode 8 (with Cristy Clark)
    Jul 4 2025

    In this episode of 'Law at the End of the World', hosts Elizabeth Macpherson and Cristy Clark discuss the intersection of environmental law and human rights, and launch Cristy's new book, Legal Geographies of Water: The Spaces, Places and Narratives of Human-Water Relations.

    Cristy and Liz explore the lessons from the wideranging water governance case studies in Cristy's groundbreaking book, including England and Wales, Flint and Detroit, Chile, South Africa, Manila and the Whanganui River in Aotearoa New Zealand across water commodification, financialisation and relationality. Their conversation emphasises the importance of community-led, grassroots water governance and Cristy makes the case for a fundamental reconceptualisation of human-water relationships to achieve more equitable water governance. The episode concludes with updates on latest developments in environmental law.

    Show notes

    Cristy CLARK

    Legal Geographies of Water

    Total chaos’ on Eurostar

    Greenwashing renewable gas

    Fracking legal challenge

    Big Oil Wrongful Death

    Shell oil pollution

    Conservation without consent

    Defossilizing our economies

    Climate conscious lawyer

    Would you like to leave us a comment about our show? send us a note here

    Visit our podcast website - where you can find more information, including the show notes.

    We would also like to acknowledge and thank our producer, Claire Burgess.

    You can also find us on the following platforms:

    • LinkedIn - Liz & Cristy
    • Bluesky - Liz & Cristy
    • Our websites - Liz & Cristy
    Show More Show Less
    1 hr and 21 mins
  • Green transitional justice, reparations, and ecocide - Episode 7 (with Rachel Killean)
    Jun 19 2025

    In this episode of Law at the End of the World, hosts Cristy & Liz discuss updates in environmental law, focusing on the concept of ecocide and its implications for justice.

    Dr Rachel Killean joins to discuss how her experiences in Cambodia shaped her focus on transitional and environmental justice. She introduces her upcoming book, Green Transitional Justice and reflects on the value of reparative approaches and curiosity in research.

    Show notes

    • London Climate Action Week
    • Vegan Gluten-Free Banana Bread
    • Just Cause
    • Government undermines regional powers to protect coastal biodiversity
    • Wetland restoration is seen as sunk cost
    • Biodiversity Credits, Stolen Land, and the Risk of Recolonising Aotearoa
    • Episode 239: Legacies of Colonialism, Dr. Olivia Mason
    • World’s first Indigenous-led ocean reserve
    • Melanesian Ocean Reserve
    • Woodside's gas extension: another legal challenge
    • Revealed: the astonishing emissions that will result from the North West Shelf project
    • Pabai Pabai & Anor v Commwealth of Australia
    • Billy & others v. Australia

    Would you like to leave us a comment about our show? send us a note here

    Visit our podcast website - where you can find more information, including the show notes.

    We would also like to acknowledge and thank our producer, Claire Burgess.

    You can also find us on the following platforms:

    • LinkedIn - Liz & Cristy
    • Bluesky - Liz & Cristy
    • Our websites - Liz & Cristy
    Show More Show Less
    1 hr and 36 mins