Laura, an alopecia advocate, and her mother Anne, who has severe eczema, discuss their life-altering experiences with visible differences. Recorded in Laura's kitchen, the pair recount Laura's struggle with hair loss from age 13 and Anne's lifelong battle with eczema. They touch on how ADHD influenced their, at times, chaotic family life and explore societal perceptions of beauty and normalcy. Laura reflects on her challenges, her journey towards acceptance, and the impact of Anne's method of support. Their conversation unveils some very deep emotions, but also reveals a shared desire for a better understanding of each other, despite their relationship's complex intricacies.

As ever with The Apple and the Tree, nothing is off limits.

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Presenter: Richard Coles

Producer: Rob Fitzpatrick

Editing: Tony Onuchukwu

Production Manager: Vittoria Cecchini

Executive Producer: Jamie East

A Daily Mail Production. Seriously Popular.

To get in touch just email podcasts@mailonline.com.

You can find us on Instagram and X @appletreepod.

Let us know about your family stories - who knows, maybe we can meet next time!

Presenter: Richard Coles

Producer: Rob Fitzpatrick

Editing: Tony Onuchukwu

Production Manager: Vittoria Cecchini

Executive Producer: Jamie East

Music written by Aloysius James and performed by Perry Ap Gwynedd & Lunar June

A Daily Mail Production. Seriously Popular.

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