Should the Parthenon (often called the “Elgin”) Marbles be returned to Greece? In this episode of Kids Law, Alma-Constance and Lucinda explore one of the biggest cultural and legal debates in the UK. The ancient sculptures were taken from the Parthenon temple in Athens over 200 years ago and are now displayed in the British Museum. Some people believe they were legally acquired. Others argue they should be reunited with the rest of the temple in Greece. So what does the law say? And can the law change?

We’re joined by solicitor Mark Stephens CBE, consultant at Howard Kennedy and a long-time campaigner for the reunification of the Parthenon Marbles. Mark explains:

• How Museum laws developed over time
• Why national museums in the UK currently cannot return objects, even if they want to
• Why some countries say cultural objects are more than “museum pieces” — they are part of identity
• What “provenance checking” means and why it matters today
• Whether returning objects would empty museums — or make them fairer

We also explore:

• Why learning from the past isn’t the same as judging it
• Whether the age of criminal responsibility (currently 10 in England and Wales) is too young
• Why lowering the voting age to 16 could strengthen democracy
• How the law evolves as society grows up

Mark shares his belief that the law is strongest when it protects the smallest voices — and that asking questions is often where change begins.

When he was 10, Mark says he was very curious, asked a lot of questions and cared about fairness a lot.

As always, Kids Law helps young people understand how laws affect them — and how they can shape the future.

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References

https://www.britishmuseum.org/about-us/british-museum-story/contested-objects-collection

https://www.lawgazette.co.uk/news/time-to-rethink-our-museums-and-return-stolen-goods-says-high-profile-lawyer/5110128.article

The British Committee for the Reunification of the Parthenon Marbles

https://www.parthenonuk.com/component/tags/tag/mark-stephens-cbe

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Stephens_(solicitor)

The Art Newspaper

Howard Kennedy

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This episode is a listen back over the past 5 years since we launched the podcast.

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Want to know how you can influence the decisions that shape your life?

Arthur Templeman-Lily at 17 years old is a children’s rights consultant from Wales, who works to ensure young people’s voices are heard in decisions that affect their lives. He tells Alma and Lucinda about his experience in children participating in shaping law and policy, and why Cardiff is a leader in children’s rights. Arthur explains how he became involved in children’s rights work and champion youth voices. We discuss:

· How he went about producing the children-led book, ‘Pause, Play, Fast Forward: The Journey of Children in Wales’

· how the book is being used in schools and youth settings

· why Wales became one of the first UK nations to criminalise smacking

· the reasons and importance of voting at 16 years old

· the age of criminal responsibility, comparing Wales with Scotland.

· advice for children who want to learn more about their rights or get involved.

When Arthur was 10, he really enjoyed history and loved writing fan fiction about the Lion King!

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Content Warning: This episode mentions domestic and sexual abuse, possession of weapons, and mental health difficulties in relation to behaviour that may lead to school exclusion.

Children as young as 10 can be held responsible for crimes – but they also have special rights under the UN Convention on the Rights of the Child. In this episode, Alma-Constance and Lucinda talk to Florence Cole, an education solicitor at Harrow Law Centre, about the laws around children’s education, why exclusions happen, and what can be done to protect young people.

Florence has many years' experience supporting children and families through exclusions, appeals, discrimination cases, and special educational needs issues. She explains:

· When parents can legally challenge a school or local authority decision

· Why exclusions can have devastating long-term effects

· How children’s backgrounds, trauma and unmet special needs can influence behaviour

· The “school-to-prison pipeline” and pupil referral units

· Practical tips for parents and carers facing exclusion hearings

· How the law (Equality Act 2010, Children & Families Act 2014, SEND Regulations) protects children with special educational needs

When Florence was 10, she loved spending time in nature and had an imaginary friend called Frieda.

References and Resources

• Harrow Law Centre
• Behaviour in schools: sanctions and exclusions
• Discriminatory exclusions
• School exclusion: a review on disproportionate exclusion of certain children
• School suspensions and permanent exclusions

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We hear in the news about people fleeing their homes to become asylum seekers or refugees, why is this? Alma and Lucinda talk to Lance Bartholomeusz from the UN Refugee Agency (UNHCR) to find out:

· The difference between refugees, asylum seekers, and migrants

· Why so many people around the world are forced to leave their homes

· What protections and rights refugees have under international law

· The role of the UN Refugee Agency (UNHCR) around the world

· How refugee children are supported to go to school, stay safe, and build new lives

· The challenges people face when starting a new life in a different country

You’ll also hear real examples of the UNHCR’s work, from helping Palestinian families in neighbouring countries, to supporting Rohingya communities in Bangladesh, to protecting displaced people in Ukraine, and how Uganda supports Sudanese refugees in Africa.

When Lance was 10 he wanted to be a snake handler!

References and Resources

United Nations Refugee Agency

United Kingdom for UNHCR

Kate Blanchett on Statelessness

Patrick Eba UNHCR’s policy and legal expert ‘Why do refugees need protection?’

There are more stories at www.unhcr.org under news and stories. Here are the latest stories relating to children: News and stories | UNHCR

There were 8.4 million asylum-seekers awaiting decisions on their individual applications at the end of 2024, the highest number ever recorded, marking a 22 per cent increase from 6.9 million the previous year. See Global Trends | UNHCR

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Did you know you could train as a solicitor straight from school?

There are two different routes to becoming a solicitor –as a graduate and as an apprentice.

In this episode, Alma-Constance and Lucinda speak to Annabel Twose, a second-year trainee, and Matt Dady, a first-year solicitor apprentice at Fieldfisher's London office, a European law firm with 25 offices in 13 countries.

Together they explore:

· Why they wanted to train as a solicitor

· The difference between training as a solicitor apprentice or as a graduate and why chose their route

· challenges encountered in their training

· A typical day and available support

· The area of law they want to practice once qualified

· Their top tips for working in a law firm

When she was 10 years old, Annabel was an avid reader and inspired by Alex Rider books wanted to be a spy. Matt wanted to work in the travel industry, as a captain of a cruise ship.

References and Resources

Fieldfisher London

CILEX episode

Legal Cheek

Corporate Law Academy

Grow Mentoring

The Bright Network.

Law Society and becoming a solicitor

Law Careers – a guide to apprenticeships

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➡️ Speak to an adult you trust
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➡️ If you're under 18 and want free, confidential advice, you can also call the NSPCC helpline: 0808 800 5000 or email help@nspcc.org.uk

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Research shows that smacking a child can be physically and emotionally damaging and it’s not an effective way to discipline them. In some parts of the UK, such as Scotland and Wales, smacking a child is against the law, even if you’re just visiting. But in England and Northern Ireland, the law is different - parents can still claim a defence of ‘reasonable punishment’.

In this episode, Alma-Constance and Lucinda speak to Amy Packham, a criminal barrister, Deputy Head of Lamb Building chambers, and a part-time Crown Court judge.

Together, they explore:

· Why the law around smacking children is different in different parts of the UK

· Whether teachers or other adults are ever allowed to smack a child

· What the law means by ‘reasonable punishment’

· What happens if someone reports a parent for smacking their child

· How the United Nations Convention on the Rights of the Child fits into all of this

If a child tells you they are being hit or they don’t feel safe, it’s important to act:
➡️ Call 999 in an emergency
➡️ Speak to an adult you trust
➡️ Or contact a confidential service like Childline: 0800 1111
➡️ If you're under 18 and want free, confidential advice, you can also call the NSPCC helpline: 0808 800 5000 or email help@nspcc.org.uk

References and Resources

Find your local social care team through your local council.

NSPCC helpline (via phone, email or online form)

Kids Law Interview Why are Children’s Rights in Scotland the Strongest in the UK?

S.58 The Children Act 2004

NSPCC Survey 2024

The Royal College of Paediatrics and Child Health (RCPCH) Report 2024

Children’s Commissioner for England

Article 19 United Nations Convention on the Rights of the Child

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WARNING: Adults might want to listen to this episode before listening with young children, as we mention the words self-harm, suicide, and eating disorders in the context of examples of harmful online content.

What are the legal implications for young people becoming influencers online? What happens if brands offer them sponsorship deals? These activities raise commercial, consent and ownership legal issues.

Alma-Constance and Lucinda speak to Steve Kuncewicz, Partner at Glaisyers Solicitors. Steve is an expert in the law that affects the creative, digital and marketing world and he joined the our hosts to talk about the main legal issues affecting children creators of online content in the UK including:

· General legal issues affecting online content creators

· Young people and contracts and sponsorship deals

· Social media platforms responsibilities and the Online Safety Act

· Challenges when parents involve their children in content creation

· Cases and laws in USA lto protect young online content creators

When Steve was 10 years old, he said he was geeky and still is! He wanted to be a writer and imagined he would be Batman!

References and Resources

Steve Kuncewicz

Child Content Creators: What Is Protecting Minors from Exploitation?

Teen Vogue article 2023: Influencer Parents and The Kids Who Had Their Childhood Made Into Content

UCLA Law Review

Child Influencers and Commercial Challenges

Kids Law podcasts on other related topics:

How can laws protect creative works?

How the ICO works to protect children online

How young people can be protected online NSPCC perspective

Does the law control when a child can work and get paid for it?

Online Safety Act - what is being done to keep children safe online

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