Toke and Geoff return "live from the Big Tomato" to talk about life in 20 years of Kings basketball hell, the brief fake hope of wins over Denver and Minnesota, and the reality of getting stomped by Memphis again. They spotlight rookie big man Maxime Raynaud as one of the only bright spots, debate what Doug Christie should be doing with rotations, and argue about whether Russell Westbrook and the kids should be prioritized over vets like Zach LaVine and DeMar DeRozan.

From there, they zoom out and put Scott Perry's early tenure under the microscope—grading everything from the Doug hire, Jonas trade, Schroder/U-Banks signings, to the Keon Ellis contract decision and the Precious pickup. Then they go league-wide: what happens to the trade market if Giannis forces his way out of Milwaukee, where should he go, and why Toke wants De'Aaron Fox exiled to Wisconsin instead of thriving in San Antonio with Wemby. They close with the spicy Chris Paul vs. Ty Lue drama with the Clippers and what that says about sending vets home, Zach/DeRozan's future, and the Kings' next painful chapter. Merry Christmas, go Kings.

Toke, Geoff, and special guest George from Carmichael dive into the latest developments out of Sacramento—from the BJ Armstrong hire to the Kings' ownership clinging to early 2000s nostalgia. Is it finally time to cut ties with the past and build something real?

In this episode:
🎯 Why ownership keeps recycling familiar names
🧠 The psychological makeup of a true winner—and who actually has it
📉 Did the NBA just compensate Dallas for sending Luka to L.A.?
💥 Would you trade Sabonis for Jrue Holiday?
👀 And is Cooper Flagg the real deal—or just more hype?

Brutally honest, sharp, and funny—this one pulls no punches. Let's cook.

In this episode, Toke and Geoff return to unpack everything surrounding the Sacramento Kings' chaotic offseason, including the aftermath of the De'Aaron Fox trade, the Kings' failed draft pick protection, and the firing of Monty McNair. They dive into whether the Kings should have tactically tanked, the issues with team culture, and the hiring of Scott Perry as GM. The duo debates whether Doug Christie should remain as head coach, potential trades for Sabonis, DeRozan, and Keegan Murray, and whether the Kings are trapped in a losing cycle. Plus, they share bold ideas like bringing back Mike Malone — or even Metta World Peace — to inject real change. An honest conversation that every Kings fan needs to hear.