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Just The Way You Are

Just The Way You Are

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In this episode of Heart and Soulution, hosts Mike and Kristen Jones interview Jim and Joan Pagones, a couple married for over 44 years. The conversation highlights the couple’s fortuitous meeting in local politics and the humorous proposal that nearly went awry due to Jim’s reputation as a prankster. A central theme is their shared faith, as they recount their simultaneous, independent decisions to follow Christ years into their marriage. They also discuss overcoming significant health challenges, including cancer and diabetes, which they credit with strengthening their bond. Jim and Joan emphasize the importance of spiritual unity, financial transparency, and never going to bed angry. The episode concludes with a lighthearted "this or that" game, showcasing how their distinct personalities have complemented one another throughout their lifelong partnership.


(C) 2025 All Music by Mike and Kristen Jones for use by Heart and Soulution, including "Heart and Soulution theme", "Card of the day", "Get to Know You Theme", "If We're Asking Other People Theme" and all background music; written and created by Mike Jones; produced and mastered with Suno.com.


Reference material and Resources to dive deeper:

  • ⁠⁠⁠⁠Resource we mentioned: SYMBIS Assessment information ⁠https://www.symbis.com/⁠
  • Song mentioned: "⁠Just the Way You Are⁠" by Billy Joel (1977)


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