John Barry | Mar 19, 2026
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Most leaders are missing one critical element that could save their organization from disaster and it’s not what you think.
John Barry, a retired Air Force general and crisis management expert, reveals the hidden decision making pitfalls that doomed NASA’s Challenger and Columbia space shuttles, lessons that apply to any organization today.
In this gripping conversation, John takes us inside the human psychology behind failure, uncovering how cultural blind spots, organizational silos, and decision habits create catastrophic outcomes. From the chaos of 9/11 to the strategic battles of Desert Storm, he shares powerful stories and frameworks on how high stakes organizations learn, or fail to learn, from their mistakes.
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