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A teenage girl grows up in a Montana cabin with no school, no neighbors, and one constant lesson from her father: modern life is a trap and authority is the enemy. Then she finds a photograph that doesn’t fit the story she’s been told, and the only way to learn the truth is to run straight toward the world he fears most: 1990s San Francisco at the birth of the internet boom.

In this episode, I’m joined by New York Times bestselling author Janelle Brown to talk about her novel What Kind of Paradise and the real-life early tech era that shaped it, from Wired to the first wave of digital optimism. We get into why writing about technology in the present tense is so hard, and what it means to look back on the web’s “revolutionary” promise after decades of addiction, distorted discourse, and an always-on life.

We also go deep on craft, character, and point of view. Janelle explains why she wrote the father’s backstory in second person—the "you" voice—making it a psychological shield and a subtle manipulation. For this novel, Janelle researched extremism, including works on Ted Kaczynski, while still making a complicated father feel frighteningly human. Along the way, we unpack legacy, parenting, identity, and her sharp question for all of us: how much are we letting technology dictate who we become, and what guardrails do we actually want for AI and platforms?

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JANELLE BROWN

WHAT KIND OF PARADISE

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