Jane Carpenter-Rock is the acting director of the Smithsonian American Art Museum. In this conversation with Ted, she draws from her varied experiences to frame art as a tool for diplomacy, debate, storytelling, and social change. Jane previously spent over 2 decades working at the U.S. Department of State. Now at the helm of SAAM during a time of profound political and social division, she faces scrutiny from the White House.

Find her at americanart.si.edu.

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