In this episode of JackQuisitions, Jack sits down with Jeff Bates, a Michigan-based operator who went from running trucks in the heat to owning and growing multiple HVAC companies. After years at Lennox and a crash course in small business while working for his father-in-law’s trucking company, Jeff and his partner decided to jump into ownership themselves.

Their first deal came in 2022 with RNL Heating & Cooling, a legacy business with real estate included. But the story didn’t stop there—just a year later, they acquired Hurside Heating & Cooling through a broker connection. Along the way, Jeff shares the reality of SBA financing, why branding and location matter more than you think, and how “Day One calls” convinced him to buy vs. build.

From navigating tuck-ins to learning the power of the supply house counter as the ultimate networking hub, Jeff walks through what it really takes to expand through acquisition while keeping culture strong.

💡 What You’ll Learn:

• Why Jeff chose buying over building—and the immediate payoff of legacy customers
• How to use supply houses and parts counters as a secret due diligence tool
• The tradeoffs of including real estate in an SBA-financed acquisition
• Branding pitfalls: when a company name works against you
• The importance of a no-asshole policy in preserving culture
• Why tuck-ins remain the best strategy for consistent HVAC growth

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In this episode of JackQuisitions, Jack sits down with Matthew Railla, a former wine industry operator turned termite company owner. After years running his family’s winery, Matt discovered business brokerage through his brother-in-law—and eventually listed a highly profitable termite inspection company. When buyers kept passing due to its relationship-driven, project-based model, Matt had a realization: What if I bought it myself?

From that October 2023 “aha” moment to closing in June 2024, Matt navigated creative SBA financing, licensing requirements, and a stubborn seller’s attorney to acquire Top Termite. Now, he’s growing the business, expanding service areas, and exploring new B2B offerings—all while sharing lessons for first-time buyers.

💡 What You’ll Learn:

• How an industry outsider found and bought a business through brokerage work
• Why some profitable companies still struggle to find the right buyer\
• How to structure a partial buyout with only 5% down (under 2024 SBA rules)
• The role of trust, relationships, and reputation in non-recurring revenue trades
• Key team members every first-time buyer should have on their side
• The mindset shift from “doing it all yourself” to leaning on experts
  
  🎙 Host: Jack Carr — [https://x.com/thehvacjack]
  🎙 Guest: Matthew Railla — matt@toptermiteco.com | LinkedIn: Matthew Railla

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💼 Business Modification Group —
The go-to business brokers for trades companies. Whether you’re buying or selling HVAC, plumbing, or electrical businesses, we help you navigate valuations, find deals, and close successfully. Get a free valuation as a buyer or seller and join our exclusive distribution list for the best opportunities in the trades market.

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In this revealing episode of JackQuisitions, Jack sits down with his good friend Scott Horman, who attempted to build an HVAC business from the ground up. Just ten months later, the doors closed for good. Scott opens up about the hard truths—misaligned partners, poor service quality, and unpredictable lead flow—that ultimately sank the venture. If you’ve ever wondered whether to start a trades business from scratch or buy an existing one, this is a must-watch.

💡 What You’ll Learn:
Why choosing the wrong partners can doom your business from day one
The hidden risks of relying on inconsistent lead generation
How poor service quality impacts growth and reputation
Key differences between building a business from scratch vs. buying one
The value of patience, industry networking, and knowing your strengths
What Scott would do differently if he started again today

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🎙️ Guest:
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