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It Was What It Was : The Football History Podcast

It Was What It Was : The Football History Podcast

By: The Overlap
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Welcome to The Overlap's football history podcast, It Was What It Was.


Each week Jonathan Wilson and Rob Draper will be talking about the key episodes in football history that have shaped the footballing world.


The show will be discussing the best stories from football's past, giving insights to the personalities involved. the tales from behind the scenes and the impact they left.


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  • The Russian Pele: The Scandal of Eduard Streltsov
    Nov 25 2025

    Welcome to It Was What It Was, the football history podcast. Co-hosts Jonathan Wilson and Rob Draper delve into the story of Eduard Streltsov, the 'Russian Pele'. In the first part of this two-part series, we trace Streltsov's meteoric rise from a poor upbringing to becoming a celebrated football talent. Witness his groundbreaking performances, his early brush with fame, and the personal flaws that began to unravel his career. Discover the events leading up to the fateful allegations that would ultimately tarnish his legacy. Join us as we unveil the complexities and the promises cut short in the life of one of Soviet football's most enigmatic figures.


    This episode contains discussion of sexual abuse and rape, which some listeners may find distressing. If you’ve been affected by any of the issues raised, the NHS provides a list of support services and resources here:

    https://www.nhs.uk/live-well/sexual-health/help-after-rape-and-sexual-assault


    00:00 Introduction

    03:38 The Soviet Football Landscape in the 1950s

    09:35 Streltsov's Early Life and Family Background

    16:31 Streltsov's Football Career Takes Off

    20:40 The 1956 Olympics and Missed Opportunities

    25:17 The Medal That Never Was

    27:01 The Downfall Begins

    30:37 A Pattern of Trouble

    49:50 Streltsov's Arrest

    50:12 Confession and Public Outcry

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    51 mins
  • Imre Hirschl: The Hungarian Trailblazer of South American Football | Part Two
    Nov 18 2025

    Welcome back to It Was What It Was, the football history podcast. Co-hosts Jonathan Wilson and Rob Draper continue the extraordinary story of Imre Hirschl, the Hungarian who revolutionised South American football. In this second part, we look into Hirschl's impact on Uruguay's historic 1950 World Cup victory and his innovative tactics at Club Atlético Peñarol and River Plate. Discover how Hirschl's genius and controversial methods shaped football history, transforming teams and leaving a lasting legacy on the footballing world.


    00:45 The Tactical Mastermind Behind Uruguay's Success

    01:55 Controversial Matches and Referee Decisions

    05:20 The Dominance of the Big Five in Argentinian Football

    08:37 Hirschl's move to River Plate

    11:59 Tactical Evolution and Direct Play

    16:55 Hircshl’s Downfall and Match-Fixing Allegations

    21:06 Return to Coaching and Success in Uruguay

    28:22 Strict Discipline and Unique Methods

    29:09 Young Players and Team Dynamics

    31:14 Campaign for National Coach

    31:59 Political Disputes and Appointments

    33:22 World Cup Preparations and Chaos

    35:43 Uruguay's Tactical Genius

    37:11 The Shocking World Cup Final

    43:48 Aftermath and Legacy

    44:58 Hirschl's Influence and Final Years

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    54 mins
  • Imre Hirschl: The Hungarian Trailblazer of South American Football | Part One
    Nov 11 2025

    Welcome to It Was What It Was, the football history podcast. Co-hosts Jonathan Wilson and Rob Draper deep dive into the extraordinary story of Imre Hirschl, the Hungarian who took South American football by storm. In this first part of a two-part series we hear the story of Hirschl's early life, his emigration to South America, and his unexpected rise to coaching fame in Argentina. From starting as a salami salesman to becoming the mastermind behind Gimnasia y Esgrima La Plata's success, Hirschl's tale is one of perseverance, innovation, and tactical genius. Tune in to discover the myths, challenges, and triumphs of this unlikely football legend who redefined the game during the early 20th century.


    00:00 The Unlikely Beginnings of a Coaching Legend

    03:46 The Hungarian Influence on South American Football

    07:59 Unraveling the Myths and Realities

    09:40 A Journey Through War and Immigration

    16:29 The Butcher Turned Football Visionary

    21:55 The Mystery of Hirschl's Football Career

    24:38 Meeting Béla Guttman and the Next Chapter

    26:21 Hirschl's Coaching Journey Begins

    28:14 Tactical Innovations and Success

    30:21 Challenges and Triumphs in Argentina

    31:14 Early Coaching Stint in Brazil

    32:42 Struggles and Determination

    42:21 Hirschl's Coaching Philosophy

    46:48 Building a Winning Team

    49:32 Conclusion and Future Prospects


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    50 mins
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