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It Depends

It Depends

By: Jordan Holland and Katie Hogan
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CrossFit Games legend and seminar staff flowmaster Katie Hogan, and multi-location affiliate owner, and CrossFit Games participation award winner Jordan Holland discuss everything at the intersection of fitness and business with an admitted CrossFit bias. If you love snatches, and sarcasm you found your people.© 2026 It Depends Economics Exercise & Fitness Fitness, Diet & Nutrition Hygiene & Healthy Living Leadership Management & Leadership
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  • 86. When should you expand the offering, and stuff gets heavy sometimes.
    Feb 8 2026

    Jordan and Katie get a little sad on this one working through some heavy topics. NOBULL comes up for the first time in a long time and Jordan is absolutely CRUSHING 2026!


    This episode was produced by Jordan Holland. The information, and opinions expressed here are mine and Jordan’s own, and nothing stated here represents CrossFit HQ. Sources are in the show notes.

    Please like and subscribe to It Depends and also tell a friend. Thanks for Listening to It Depends. We will be back in a couple of weeks for another fitness and business rundown.

    CrossFit | CrossFit Games | Become a CrossFit Affiliate | Fitt Insider | Club Industry | Athletech News | Associated Press | Professional Coach Newsletter | Onthisday | Forbes | Barbell Spin | Morning Chalk up | Washington Post | Wall Street Journal | NewYork Times | IHRSA | RESET CrossFit | Megawatt CrossFit

    IG: @katiehogan777 | @blacknesssmonster

    Email: katie.hogan@crossfit.com | Jordan@resetsd.com

    Send questions to Jordan via email or IG dm


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    48 mins
  • 85. Katie hates trees and RESET needs a better manager?
    Jan 21 2026

    Jordan and Katie go on epic tangents before they get down to business. Katie suspsects Jordan of getting hustled by a tree farmer. Staff development is an ongoing concern and RESET'S crap Q4


    CrossFit | CrossFit Games | Become a CrossFit Affiliate | Fitt Insider | Club Industry | Athletech News | Associated Press | Professional Coach Newsletter | Onthisday | Forbes | Barbell Spin | Morning Chalk up | Washington Post | Wall Street Journal | NewYork Times | IHRSA | RESET CrossFit | Megawatt CrossFit

    IG: @katiehogan777 | @blacknesssmonster

    Email: katie.hogan@crossfit.com | Jordan@resetsd.com


    Send questions to Jordan via email or IG dm



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    59 mins
  • 84. Well rounded teams and NOT following your passions
    Dec 20 2025

    Katie and Jordan take a big risk and go off on some tangents.

    CrossFit | CrossFit Games | Become a CrossFit Affiliate | Fitt Insider | Club Industry | Athletech News | Associated Press | Professional Coach Newsletter | Onthisday | Forbes | Barbell Spin | Morning Chalk up | Washington Post | Wall Street Journal | NewYork Times | IHRSA | RESET CrossFit | Megawatt CrossFit

    IG: @katiehogan777 | @blacknesssmonster

    Email: katie.hogan@crossfit.com | Jordan@resetsd.com


    Send questions to Jordan via email or IG dm


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    55 mins
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