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Inner Contracts & Finding Your Flow — with Dave Gibbons

Inner Contracts & Finding Your Flow — with Dave Gibbons

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John sits down with mentor, movement-starter, and “international man of mystery” Dave Gibbons for a wide-ranging conversation on leadership, pain, and the art of living in flow. Dave shares the untold story of his private, final interview with Kobe Bryant—including Kobe’s “inner contracts” for fatherhood—and unpacks how personal tragedy, faith deconstruction, and decades of experimentation reshaped his definition of success.

Together they discuss:
• Why greatness that ignores home life rings hollow
• Turning deep pain into a compass for purpose
• The spiritual intelligence behind Mihaly Csikszentmihalyi’s flow
• Building communities without walls—and why “bigger” isn’t always “better”
How a single focus word (“AND”) reframed John’s calling at the intersections of East & West, creativity & analysis, faith & work

If you’ve ever wondered how to stay fully present, ride life’s waves, and lead from a place of authentic connection, this episode is your playbook. Plug in and let’s create some connection.
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