“Love the sinner, hate the sin.”It sounds spiritual. Balanced. Mature.

It’s also not in the Bible.

In this episode, Brandon and Shay pull apart one of Christianity’s favorite slogans and ask a hard question: when we say we “hate the sin,” why does it so often feel like we’re hating the person?

From Saint Augustine to Sir Mix-A-Lot (yes, really), this conversation moves from church history to culture-war Christianity, from John 8 to modern politics, from “bless your heart” to the avalanche of conditions we attach to love.

Because let’s be honest — the “but” usually ends up louder than the love.

Jesus said, “Neither do I condemn you… now go and leave your life of sin.”
Grace first. Dignity first. Love first.

So what happens when Christians reverse that order?
When we build a magnifying glass for everyone else’s sin — and a blindfold for our own?
When our version of “hating evil” makes us less patient, less gentle, less kind?

This episode doesn’t go soft on sin.
It just insists we start in the mirror.

If Christianity is being “renewed,” where’s the fruit? If we claim to love like Jesus, would the people we talk about agree?

But if you’ve ever felt loved with an asterisk — or if you’ve ever been the one holding the asterisk — this conversation is for you.

Because real love doesn’t come with a “but.”