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what if wholeness is messier than we thought?

what if wholeness is messier than we thought?

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welcome back to the whole mess podcast.

in this episode, we explore what it really means to be whole. Abby and Katie share their personal journeys with wholeness, how their definitions have changed over time, how those journeys have shaped them, and how they continue to be shaped as they lean in.

we talk about the space that needs to be created in order to truly see ourselves and recognize the many ways the Lord is moving within us. Wholeness isn’t something you arrive at, it’s a continual process of surrender, growth, and transformation. it’s about learning to pivot, to stay open, and to allow the Lord to fully transform every area of our lives.

we don’t have all the answers, but we’re learning as we go, and we’re excited to share this space with you. let’s dive in.

reflection question: where are you demanding wholeness from yourself instead of allowing formation?

feb. 2, 2026

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