In this episode of The Jenny Beth Show, Jenny Beth Martin is joined by IRS whistleblowers Gary Shapley and Joseph Ziegler, two career IRS Criminal Investigation agents who came forward after witnessing political interference in the federal investigation into Hunter Biden.

Shapley and Ziegler walk listeners through how the case originated, the evidence they uncovered, and the investigative steps that were blocked or delayed by the Department of Justice. They explain how search warrants were denied, interviews were tipped off, charging decisions were overridden, and how normal procedures were abandoned in ways they had never seen in any other case.

The conversation also explores what led each of them to become whistleblowers, the retaliation and isolation they faced, and the personal cost of choosing to speak the truth. Both guests share hard-earned lessons for other government employees, the importance of following lawful whistleblower processes, and why equal justice under the law is essential to maintaining public trust.

This episode offers a rare, firsthand account of government weaponization, institutional corruption, and the courage required to stand up when the system protects the powerful instead of enforcing the law equally.

Purchase their book: The Whistleblowers vs. The Big Guy: Two Special Agents, the Biden Crime Family, and a Corrupt Bureaucracy