Episodes

  • Breaking Through, with Tom Cotton
    Jul 24 2025

    “And so how do we navigate this complex reality, which is that we're constantly masked because we need to be, because if you take all of that off and you reveal all the inner workings, it would be complete chaos. But at the same time, what tends to happen as humans is the mask, the presentation, we start to get caught up in the idea that the presentation is everything that we are. And that gets very confusing.”

    This episode of the Humans at Work podcast features a conversation with Dr. Tom Cotton, Founder & Programme Director at The Breakthrough Process. We explore various themes including leadership, sustainability, and the concept of masking in professional settings. We discuss the importance of understanding one’s identity beyond job roles, the transformative power of group dynamics in leadership, and the emotional work required to navigate personal challenges and growth.

    Tom and I talk about:

    • How masking in leadership can lead to personal dissonance, and why understanding your "mask" is crucial for greater authenticity.
    • How group dynamics can reveal powerful insights about yourself.
    • The role of creativity and storytelling as powerful tools for connection, understanding, and enhancing both personal and professional growth.
    • Why internal success metrics are more meaningful than external ones, as identity is often closely tied to professional roles and titles.
    • The differences between teams and groups – where self-selection into groups can support more change readiness.
    • The kinds of communication barriers that hinder effective teamwork, making supportive environments crucial for personal exploration and growth.
    • How engaging in stories we watch or hear, change us as well.
    • Why future aspirations should encompass both personal and professional development, with an emphasis on confronting difficult emotions.

    Resources and Links:

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    • Follow Jules on linkedin.com/in/julesharrisonannear
    • Need an engaging, thought-provoking, inspirational speaker or facilitator? Talk to Jules about her availability via https://calendly.com/jules_jerica/humans-at-work-chat
    • To get Jules’ help with your organisational or leadership challenge, visit jerica.org or go ahead and book a time with Jules via Calendly on https://calendly.com/jules_jerica/thinkingdifferently

    Keep connected with Humans At Work:

    • To listen to more podcasts and read Jules’ blogs visit https://www.humansatwork.org/
    • To improve your ethnical leadership, sign up to our free self-paced digital Matching Values to Action course https://www.humansatwork.org/store
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    47 mins
  • Stepping into the curiosity gap, with Paul McGregor
    Jan 9 2025

    “So, we need leaders who are jazz band leaders, where you agree on the key and get the drummer to set the tempo. And then actually it's up to the whole group to kind of be alive and paying attention to each other and having real honest conversations about what's going on. It's those tiny little glances between people when you're playing in a band that, of these little signals that you have to pay attention to. And so, the jazz band leader's job is very different. It's one of hinting and nudging and getting alongside people rather than being out the front demanding that they do things in a certain way.”

    This episode of the humans at work podcast features conversation with Paul McGregor, facilitator and speaker. We explore various themes including leadership, facilitation, and community engagement, including the importance of cultural context. Paul shares his journey of writing a book focused on the power of curiosity and questions in leadership, while also emphasizing the significance of listening and engagement in effective communication. And we touch on the challenges of job seeking in today's environment, and the need for organizations to rethink their recruitment processes.

    Paul and I talk about:

    • The importance of culturally appropriate introductions in New Zealand.
    • Listening as a critical skill for effective leadership.
    • The role of facilitation in navigating complex group dynamics.
    • How curiosity drives better engagement and understanding.
    • The ways job seeking has changed, and the need for recruitment processes to be more human-centred.
    • How relationships should come ahead of process – in leadership, recruitment, procurement.
    • The social contract between employees and organizations.
    • How the process of writing a book can enhance personal confidence and knowledge.
    • The importance of questions, and how they can elicit unexpected insights and deeper conversations.

    Resources and Links:

    Connect with Jules:

    • Follow Jules on linkedin.com/in/julesharrisonannear
    • Need an engaging, thought-provoking, inspirational speaker or facilitator? Talk to Jules about her availability via https://calendly.com/jules_jerica/humans-at-work-chat
    • To get Jules’ help with your organisational or leadership challenge, visit jerica.org or go ahead and book a time with Jules via Calendly on https://calendly.com/jules_jerica/thinkingdifferently

    Keep connected with Humans At Work:

    • To listen to more podcasts and read Jules’ blogs visit https://www.humansatwork.org/
    • To improve your ethnical leadership, sign up to our free self-paced digital Matching Values to Action course https://www.humansatwork.org/store
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    1 hr and 1 min
  • Leading with better, with Jasper Steinhausen
    Dec 17 2024

    “…find that new and better version that better suits and deals with the problem at hand, whether that's one for you and or your client, and then go out and sell that. Now we've made a new and smarter version, oh and by the way, it's actually also better for the world, but it's not the other way around. Don't lead with green, lead with better, and then sprinkle green on top. That's what's going to make you set your path.”

    In this episode of the Humans at Work podcast, Jasper takes us through his journey into sustainability and the importance of business leadership in addressing climate change. Jasper introduces his concept of the 'Fatal Five' barriers to sustainability and how reframing the conversation can lead to positive outcomes for both businesses and the environment. We discuss the need for a redefinition of sustainability that emphasizes proactive measures for future generations, the importance of collaboration and openness in addressing environmental challenges, and the necessity of overcoming fear to embrace an abundance mindset.

    Jasper and I talk about:

    • The impact of our upbringing on our climate awareness.
    • Rethinking how sustainability can align with business success.
    • Two basic needs - a stable ecosystem and meaningful jobs.
    • How mindset shifts are crucial for embracing sustainability.
    • Why sustainability is often viewed as a burden, not an opportunity, and the impact this has.
    • Turning around negativity to looking at opportunities for creating positive impact
    • Collaboration and openness as essential for solving sustainability challenges.
    • How fear can hinder progress, whereas embracing abundance fosters innovation.
    • Authentic communication is key, how to lead with better solutions, not just green initiatives.
    • That businesses need a mission bigger than themselves to enhance their credibility and their sustainability efforts.
    • Practical strategies to empower businesses to implement sustainability.

    Resources and Links:

    Connect with Jules:

    • Follow Jules on linkedin.com/in/julesharrisonannear
    • Need an engaging, thought-provoking, inspirational speaker or facilitator? Talk to Jules about her availability via https://calendly.com/jules_jerica/humans-at-work-chat
    • To get Jules’ help with your organisational or leadership challenge, visit jerica.org or go ahead and book a time with Jules via Calendly on https://calendly.com/jules_jerica/thinkingdifferently

    Keep connected with Humans At Work:

    • To listen to more podcasts and read Jules’ blogs visit https://www.humansatwork.org/
    • To improve your ethnical leadership, sign up to our free self-paced digital Matching Values to Action course https://www.humansatwork.org/store
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    50 mins
  • Trust and Authenticity, with Dave Trausneck
    Dec 2 2024

    “News and information in general has never been more important. When we're looking at how we inform the decisions that we make in our lives and what we care about.

    Just using the US as an example, whether it's related to what's happening in our Supreme Court and the cases that they're selecting, what's happening in our local governments, and our state governments, and our federal government?

    Having an informed electorate has never been more important and that's one of the things that has always drawn me to news and information is about letting people know facts...“

    This episode of the humans at work podcast features conversation with Dave Trausneck, Communications Consultant at Knowledge Partners, and Senior Manager at Aidoc.

    Dave and I explore a variety of topics, ranging from personal stories about pets to the impact of community in sports, the evolution of news, and the importance of authentic communication in organizations. We discuss the challenges of misinformation and the importance of trust, the significance of listening to understand, and the power of vulnerability in professional settings. We also talk about what led us to connect, and the importance of seeking help during challenging times.

    Dave and I talk about:

    • How pets bring immense joy and companionship.
    • Celebrity culture and the unrealistic expectations placed upon people to be perfect role models.
    • How sports teams can be a catalyst for community development.
    • How the landscape of news has drastically changed.
    • The challenge that misinformation poses.
    • How listening to understand is vital for meaningful dialogue.
    • Authenticity in storytelling and the links to brand trust.
    • Employee advocacy and its role in shaping public perception.
    • Building community connections, even in remote-first organizations.
    • Making it okay to seek help during difficult times.

    Resources and Links:

    Connect with Jules:

    • Follow Jules on linkedin.com/in/julesharrisonannear
    • Need an engaging, thought-provoking, inspirational speaker or facilitator? Talk to Jules about her availability via https://calendly.com/jules_jerica/humans-at-work-chat
    • To get Jules’ help with your organisational or leadership challenge, visit jerica.org or go ahead and book a time with Jules via Calendly on https://calendly.com/jules_jerica/thinkingdifferently

    Keep connected with Humans At Work:

    • To listen to more podcasts and read Jules’ blogs visit https://www.humansatwork.org/
    • To improve your ethnical leadership, sign up to our free self-paced digital Matching Values to Action course https://www.humansatwork.org/store
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    55 mins
  • Adopting and adapting for impact, with Craig Pattison
    Oct 17 2024

    “As I look at how the world operates, that global community, even now we need even more attention and detail to being respectful, to broadening our perspectives on things and to reaching out and helping people. Rather than having our measure as individual success, have our measure as collective or community success cos then everyone gets to have some value.”

    This episode of the humans at work podcast features conversation with Craig Pattison, Director of ChalknTalk, and COO of Capability Collective.

    Craig and I discussed the privilege and opportunities that travel and engaging with other cultures affords, the nature of community and the obligations and values embedded within that. We also touch on AI adoption and adaptation, the nature of long-distance relationship building, and how risk management and governance are shifting in context.

    Craig and I talk about:

    • His travels to 58 countries (so far)
    • The value and insights that come from immersing yourself in new sights, sounds and experiences
    • Showing up in your contribution to communities
    • Impact entrepreneurship and the importance of hand-up not hand-out strategy
    • Risk management standardisation and the importance of focusing on material risks
    • Understanding, adopting and adapting AI that fits with your organisational context and needs
    • The combination of logic and reasoning and relationship management
    • Relationship building despite physical distance.

    Resources and Links:

    Connect with Jules:

    • Follow Jules on linkedin.com/in/julesharrisonannear
    • Need an engaging, thought-provoking, inspirational speaker or facilitator? Talk to Jules about her availability via https://calendly.com/jules_jerica/humans-at-work-chat
    • To get Jules’ help with your organisational or leadership challenge, visit jerica.org or go ahead and book a time with Jules via Calendly on https://calendly.com/jules_jerica/thinkingdifferently

    Keep connected with Humans At Work:

    • To listen to more podcasts and read Jules’ blogs visit https://www.humansatwork.org/
    • To improve your ethnical leadership, sign up to our free self-paced digital Matching Values to Action course https://www.humansatwork.org/store
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    37 mins
  • Leading with love, with Kent Frazier
    Oct 16 2024

    “How are we gonna lock arms with trust and love and care and move into this unknown, unshaped, unformed future and start putting some shape and form to it, born from love? Not fear, power over, scarcity, all that kind of stuff. That’s what I’m hoping, this book becomes an instrument in that way to bring forward those kinds of caring conversations.

    This episode of the humans at work podcast features conversation with Kent Frazier, CEO of ParadoxEdge.

    Kent and I talk about polarities and becoming comfortable with the ‘edges’ of things. We traverse a wide range of topics including, what this means for leadership through care, the search for conversational relationships in a world of ‘meetings’, and the need to move away from fixed, binary camps to embracing our polarities as a continuum that bring generosity and humanness at work. Kent not only articulates these concepts clearly, but has written and designed “Love Fiercely”, an inspirational (and aspirational) book for children and adults of all ages and in all contexts.

    Kent and I talk about:

    • Honouring the full spectrum of who we are and who we want to become
    • The concept of polarities and agility required to move constantly within them
    • How partial truths are part of our inherently human nature
    • How labels have gained a primacy that needs to be overcome – including when job titles are seen as a proxy for value
    • The value of true conversations, creating relationships built on generosity, understanding, conscious vulnerability, and valuing of each other
    • Shifting leadership paradigms towards a more human, candid and caring space
    • Being comfortable with being uncomfortable
    • The future of work, ethically embracing humanity, technologies and nature

    Resources and Links:

    Connect with Jules:

    • Follow Jules on linkedin.com/in/julesharrisonannear
    • Need an engaging, thought-provoking, inspirational speaker or facilitator? Talk to Jules about her availability via https://calendly.com/jules_jerica/humans-at-work-chat
    • To get Jules’ help with your organisational or leadership challenge, visit jerica.org or go ahead and book a time with Jules via Calendly on https://calendly.com/jules_jerica/thinkingdifferently

    Keep connected with Humans At Work:

    • To listen to more podcasts and read Jules’ blogs visit https://www.humansatwork.org/
    • To improve your ethnical leadership, sign up to our free self-paced digital Matching Values to Action course https://www.humansatwork.org/store
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    1 hr and 8 mins
  • Unleashing the Potential of Direct Solidarity, with Emanuele Santi
    Jun 6 2024

    “…so what we want to do is really unleash the potential of humans to really connect and help. It’s a bit of what we do in Africa – it’s unleashing the potential, the entrepreneurial potential to actually drive solutions, and what we’re giving is this tool that even any random individual can be a solution to local problems.”

    This episode of the humans at work podcast features a conversation with Emanuele Santi, co-founder and president of Afrilanthropy supporting African entrepreneurs, and Riding the Rainbow, an app connecting refugees and local communities in the sharing, circular economy.

    Emanuele and I talk about fear, risk, myth and labelling, and how his work with African entrepreneurs and refugees provides simple tools and channels that unleash human potential for innovation, empathy and local solutions. We covered the full range of topics in the economic space from macro-economics and the continuing negative impacts of colonisation, to micro-economics and the power of individuals to create local solutions that deliver impact and can scale.

    Emanuele and I talk about:

    • The concept of Mal d’Afrique, once you’ve been to Africa you long to go back
    • Unleashing and supporting potential for local solutions through local innovation
    • Mindset shifts in philanthropy and sustainable social support
    • Broken investment and economic systems
    • Concepts of risk based on your lived experience
    • Social entrepreneurship and capacity for risk
    • Changing narratives – Africa as a hotspot for innovation
    • Macro to micro economic theory
    • The ongoing impact of colonisation
    • Myths of global food and energy production
    • Riding the Rainbow, the app connecting asylum seekers and refugees with local communities
    • The concept of direct solidarity, breaking down barriers for empathy and connection
    • How fear drives disconnection
    • Recycling and circular economy

    Resources and Links:

    Connect with Jules:

    • Follow Jules on www.linkedin.com/in/julesharrisonannear
    • Need an engaging, thought-provoking, inspirational speaker or facilitator? Talk to Jules about her availability via https://calendly.com/jules-jhaconsulting/speaking-event-preparation
    • To get Jules’ help with your organisational or leadership challenge, visit https://jhaconsulting.org or go ahead and book a time with Jules via Calendly on https://calendly.com/jules-jhaconsulting

    Keep connected with Humans At Work:

    • To listen to more podcasts and read Jules’ blogs visit https://www.humansatwork.org/
    • To improve your ethical leadership, sign up to our free self-paced digital Matching Values to Action course https://www.humansatwork.org/store
    • Sign up to the human hub newsletter keep up to date with all things Humans at Work. Find more info here
    • Follow Humans at Work on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/company/humans-at-worknz/
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    57 mins
  • Creating Resilient Futures with Melissa Clark-Reynolds
    Apr 10 2024

    “The present is already really messy. What I’ve learnt is that the future will be really messy, too, and that there won’t be a single answer to everything. Coming back to foresight then, I think good organisations should really do the work of imagining multiple futures and there’s some really well-designed scenario methodologies out there for working out which kinds of futures you might want to think about. Let’s say you end up with four different futures for how you think the world might be, that’s really, really useful for strategising.”

    This episode of the humans at work podcast features conversation with Melissa Clark-Reynolds, a futurist, technology entrepreneur and insightful and visionary speaker. She is the Managing Director at FutureCentre.nz and sits on the Boards of Atkins Ranch, Wētā Workshop Ltd, Alpine Energy Group, Daffodil Enterprises Ltd, NZ Future Bees Trust, and Iron Duke.

    Melissa and I talk about the changing nature of consumer and employer influence, the evolution of executive governance, and the role of long-term investment thinking for future generations. As an experienced Director, Melissa reflected on how Boards need to role model the behaviours and values of the organisation, how incentives for CE performance could do with an overhaul, and how to develop resilient strategies.

    Melissa and I talk about:

    • Pattern recognition across multiple different systems
    • Food security and ethical labour and what it means to our ‘small pleasures’
    • Era of increasing transparency
    • Consumerism as voice and voting
    • Ethical alignment and the importance of visible integrity
    • Organisations as part of wider ecosystems
    • Intergenerational workforce strategies
    • Shifting nature of employer – employee relationships
    • Importance of holistic reputations for companies
    • Governance and Directorships – role of Boards in supporting and role modelling the company ethos and values
    • Relationships between CE and Board chairs
    • What success is for companies and organisations with a future perspective
    • Appropriate incentives for sustainable longer-term strategies
    • Board Director’s roles in supporting culture and succession
    • The importance of long-term workforce strategies
    • Planning for comprehensive integration of migrants into the workforce and communities
    • The need to review New Zealand’s labour market policies
    • Long-term investment in education and health
    • The importance of teaching critical thinking and creativity
    • Infrastructure and the challenge of government debt leaving stranded assets for future generations
    • Strategies that build resilient futures that future generations will have the most choice in
    • Te Ao Māori view in relation to valuing people with preferences for the past, the present and the future
    • The importance of handling the present as well as thinking of the future
    • The need to imagine multiple futures and scenarios to build resilient strategy
    • The importance of pandemic scenario planning.

    Resources and Links:

    Connect with Jules:

    • Follow Jules on www.linkedin.com/in/julesharrisonannear
    • Need an engaging, thought-provoking, inspirational speaker or facilitator? Talk to Jules about her availability via https://calendly.com/jules-jhaconsulting/speaking-event-preparation
    • To get Jules’ help with your organisational or leadership challenge, visit https://jhaconsulting.org or go ahead and book a time with Jules via Calendly on https://calendly.com/jules-jhaconsulting

    Keep connected with Humans At Work:

    • To listen to more podcasts and read Jules’ blogs visit https://www.humansatwork.org/
    • To improve your ethical leadership, sign up to our free self-paced digital Matching Values to Action course https://www.humansatwork.org/store
    • Sign up to the human hub newsletter keep up to date with all things Humans at Work. Find more info here
    • Follow Humans at Work on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/company/humans-at-worknz/
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    1 hr and 3 mins