What if instead of trying to "stop the scroll," you started talking to your audience like they already care about what you have to say?

I'm sitting down with Mackenzie Heflin to talk about how coaches and experts can use storytelling to build real community and make sales, without gimmicky hooks, performative content, or feeling like you have to constantly be "on" online.

We talk about what it actually looks like to treat platforms like Threads, TikTok, and Instagram like a private community instead of a stage, and why that shift changes how people connect with you, trust you, and decide to work with you.

Mackenzie shares how to educate without overwhelming, how to use client stories when it's not your lived experience, and how storytelling becomes one of the most effective long-term sales tools for experts.

[00:00] Why "stop the scroll" marketing isn't building community or sales
[00:03] Mackenzie's origin story and building a high-trust Facebook community
[00:06] Losing her platform overnight and the storytelling realization
[00:11] Treating social media like a private community, not a stage
[00:18] Educating without overwhelming (and why more info doesn't convert)
[00:24] Using client stories when it's not your personal experience
[00:32] Storytelling as a business owner vs. a content creator
[00:45] AI, storytelling, and why your voice still matters
[00:55] Invitation to the Nourished Business Accelerator (NBA)

"You'll never catch me trying to convince people why they should learn storytelling. I just teach people how to story tell."

"The simplest shift I have my clients make is changing how to into how I—because it makes your audience care about you, not just the information."

"When you give people too much information before they're ready, that doesn't lead to conversion—that leads to confusion."

"There's a difference between a storyteller as a content creator and a storyteller as a business owner."

"Using chat is like using a backup camera in your car. You still have to know how to be able to drive your car."

Mackenzie's Storytelling Membership

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